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Title: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 May 2009, 23:35
Hello chaps.


Need to know a few things, now if I were to buy a MK4, which one would be best to go for?


I do a fair few miles, but no more than 5 - 6K a year so not really that much, do I get a dirty diesel or a 1.8T?


Give me thoughts :)
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 27 May 2009, 23:36
1.8t

Yes!!! Before Diesel boys Rhys and Steve get their claws on you!!

You know you want to!!
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 May 2009, 23:38
:P


What about mileage, now thing is, as my GL is going, I'm really trying to get a good idea of what to go for next, nothings defo at the moment, but if I were to go for a MK4, what kind of mileage on a 1.8T engine is acceptable? Like with MK3s over 100K is still gonna go strong...
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 27 May 2009, 23:39
Derv  :wink: not a great deal of difference in performance unless you get an R32  :cool:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 27 May 2009, 23:40
:P


What about mileage, now thing is, as my GL is going, I'm really trying to get a good idea of what to go for next, nothings defo at the moment, but if I were to go for a MK4, what kind of mileage on a 1.8T engine is acceptable? Like with MK3s over 100K is still gonna go strong...

Ive just hit 100k. TBH mate Its not cheap to run my car but I love every second in it, the only way to tell is to drive the models and see which you like. But if you have been in a top range diesel you will know how much torque you get and its pretty impressive!!
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 May 2009, 23:42
How much is it to run jeynesey? MPG? Compared to the diesels? See I don't think I'd mind a diesel, but the option to tune the engine to get more out of it would be nice, as if I do get a MK4 I want to stick R32 bumpers on it and MK5 Anni wheels, I've seen on like this in silver and loved it. So I'd be in it to keep for a few years.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Wayne on 27 May 2009, 23:46
Diesel ftw.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 27 May 2009, 23:46
You can tune diesels too shady, just ask rhyso  :wink:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 27 May 2009, 23:47
How much is it to run jeynesey? MPG? Compared to the diesels? See I don't think I'd mind a diesel, but the option to tune the engine to get more out of it would be nice, as if I do get a MK4 I want to stick R32 bumpers on it and MK5 Anni wheels, I've seen on like this in silver and loved it. So I'd be in it to keep for a few years.

Well not certain on mpg as it fluctuates depending on how heavy your foot is  :wink: I would be happy with either though I think, im happy with a standard mk4 engine-wise so it depends how much power u want??!
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 27 May 2009, 23:49
Well I don't want to get a low engine MK4, I want something I'll be happy with to begin with, and then will have the easy option to bolt on bits in the future to futureproof it.


I'm looking at spending about £2K, and am finding a lot of MK4 1.8Ts and Diesels for this amount, both ranges have around 110K - 140K miles on.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: the_stink on 28 May 2009, 08:45
tbh mate if your doing alot of mileage you might be better goign for a gt tdi you will get good mileage anad you can still get power from them just look at Steve_PD got 200bhp plus a piss load of tourqe to match

I would say go for the 1.8t you wont be dissapointed but you prob wont see that good a mpg unless you drive like a saint plus you can tune your balls off!

either way diesel or petrol you can still style it the way you want will just be different under the hood
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Rhyso on 28 May 2009, 08:52
Derv  :wink: not a great deal of difference in performance unless you get an R32  :cool:
Diesel ftw.

these men speaketh the truth  :tongue:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: T_J_G on 28 May 2009, 09:15
1.8T all the way. What power diesels you looking at anyway?110,115,130 or 150?

I can get 40MPG in my 1.8T
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 09:18
Thanks for all in the input guys :) I appreciate it.


If it was a diesel, I dunno which one to go for, whichever one I can tune the most I guess?


Is 110K - 150K a lot of miles for a MK4?
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: T_J_G on 28 May 2009, 09:19
Not really, I always thing about 10k a year is reasonable. Have a look at what power diesels are in your price bracket. I think they'll be 110,115's or 130's.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 09:24
Just having a real quick look, I can get 110, 115 and 130 within £2300. A fair amount of 1.8Ts are going for around £2000 with around 115K miles on them.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: JC on 28 May 2009, 09:28
oh shady, what are you thinking  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 28 May 2009, 09:29
130 ftw  :wink:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Rhyso on 28 May 2009, 09:29
Just having a real quick look, I can get 110, 115 and 130 within £2300. A fair amount of 1.8Ts are going for around £2000 with around 115K miles on them.

130's at that price range will be very high milers i would have thought

if you're only doing 5-6K a year and mainly short journeys then a 1.8T will be fine; if you do mainly long distance journeys then diesel FTW

although another thing to consider is that petrol prices have crept up recently  :wink:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 09:31
oh shady, what are you thinking  :lipsrsealed:

Maybe I want to try something new chuff :P


http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+GOLF/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-9-50-111-145-240-4294966835-4294966886/advert.action?R=200920334541184&distance=139&postcode=SO31+7FL&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF&min_pr=1000&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1999&vehicleRegLetter=S


Thinking of something like that?
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: T_J_G on 28 May 2009, 09:34
oh shady, what are you thinking  :lipsrsealed:

Maybe I want to try something new chuff :P


http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+GOLF/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-9-50-111-145-240-4294966835-4294966886/advert.action?R=200920334541184&distance=139&postcode=SO31+7FL&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF&min_pr=1000&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1999&vehicleRegLetter=S


Thinking of something like that?

1.8 N/A - don't bother
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 10:00
Eh?  :grin:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Rhyso on 28 May 2009, 10:01
Eh?  :grin:

no turbo innit  :tongue:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Wayne on 28 May 2009, 10:14
oh shady, what are you thinking  :lipsrsealed:

Maybe I want to try something new chuff :P


http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+GOLF/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-9-50-111-145-240-4294966835-4294966886/advert.action?R=200920334541184&distance=139&postcode=SO31+7FL&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF&min_pr=1000&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1999&vehicleRegLetter=S


Thinking of something like that?

No turbo but cheap car for the miles and good spec.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 10:26
Ahhh, I need to be looking for the T on the end :P  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Stronz on 28 May 2009, 10:31
My 1.8T has done over 130K (bought it about two years ago at 114K). Still going strong and no major issues (apart from the fuse box on top of the battery failing - fairly common it seems though)

I always was told that the 1.8T is pretty much bullet proof as longs as its looked after (should be the same for any car really). Just make sure you get S/H and the car has had a recent water pump + Cambelt change and you should be fine. Take a look at the buying guide / common faults to help you avoid any real dogs.

I use my car for traveling to work every day, and manage to average about 32mpg on a 20 mile journey, with quite a bit of spirited driving / sitting in traffic. On the way home last night whilst the roads were empty after the gym, I managed to hit 46mpg. As long as you don't rag it everywhere, you shouldn't struggle with MPG.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 10:34
Thanks for that Stronz :) that's really helped quite a bit. I must be on 30MPG - 35MPG on my 1.8 GL at the moment so so long as it's around that that'll be groovy. I really want one in Reflex Silver.
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: azzrobz on 28 May 2009, 10:38
Traitor  :cry:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 10:39
Traitor  :cry:

Hey! That's not fair lol! I am only looking, :P
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 28 May 2009, 11:42
Go on, do it you know you wanna  :wink:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: the_stink on 28 May 2009, 13:51
yeah do it shady join the ellite ;)
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Steve_PD on 28 May 2009, 16:52
If your only doing 6k a year you dont need a diesel   :lipsrsealed:
Plus for £2k your not going to get a good one, it would be a high miler in which things start to wear out and need replacing (bushes, clutch, turbo) and starts getting expensive to run  :cry:

You should be able to pick up a nice 1.8T for your price range and try to get the lowest mileage car you can.

Oh and theres an initiation to get into the "elite"  :grin:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 28 May 2009, 17:00
Quote
Oh and theres an initiation to get into the "elite" 
Really  :shocked:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Steve_PD on 28 May 2009, 17:01
Yeah PM Rhyso for info  :wink:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 28 May 2009, 17:12
not sure i wanna know  :shocked:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 28 May 2009, 17:17
not sure i wanna know  :shocked:

Its pretty horrific, it involved water pumps thats all I'm saying  :grin:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 28 May 2009, 17:20
err i'll stay un-elite then  :sick:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 28 May 2009, 17:21
Shady, dont get silver
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: gjroe78 on 28 May 2009, 17:22
Shady, dont get silver
Oi  :angry:
Yeah get silver shady  :cool:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 28 May 2009, 17:31
Shady, dont get silver
Oi  :angry:
Yeah get silver shady  :cool:

Please dont get silver  :wink:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 28 May 2009, 17:33
Not sure if I could cope with Shady "clogging up" the mk4 section. I do that enough as it is!!
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 17:33
Shady, dont get silver
Oi  :angry:
Yeah get silver shady  :cool:

I will post a picture of how I want mine to look if I got one:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/vealige/sig-1.jpg)


I think that is gorgeous, I want to get mine looking like that if I do get a MK4 :)


jeynesey, you saying I clog up other parts of the forum?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Steve_PD on 28 May 2009, 17:34
You best have deep pockets  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: the_stink on 28 May 2009, 17:45
very deep esp with the mod squad helping spend your money, well generally everyone hahaha
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 May 2009, 17:47
I don't think it'll be too much, having a quick look on the bay, R32 bodykit is about £350, but then I need it painting but I can get that done for about £250 - 300. The wheels will be the mot expensive thing, over £1K  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


But I always find a way :P it does look lovely though :)
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Steve_PD on 28 May 2009, 17:56
Kit will be a cheap copy, unless you find a second hand one.
If you want the mirrors add £150 plus spraying, front lights £300++
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Dubbz on 28 May 2009, 20:00
Nowt wrong with short journeys in a derv.  :lipsrsealed:
Mine was up to 57mpg over a 7 mile trip.  :cool: this was last week, around midnight and about 11 degrees.
Buy a derv if you can find a nice one in your price range.  :evil:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 28 May 2009, 21:50
Kit will be a cheap copy, unless you find a second hand one.
If you want the mirrors add £150 plus spraying, front lights £300++

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=118118.0
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Steve_PD on 28 May 2009, 22:06
Still a rep though, need modding and may not fit properly
Seen a few gen kits go on ebay for £400-£500 second hand, I'd rather pay the extra and have something which you know will fit and will be stronger than fibreglass
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: jeynesey on 28 May 2009, 22:32
Still a rep though, need modding and may not fit properly
Seen a few gen kits go on ebay for £400-£500 second hand, I'd rather pay the extra and have something which you know will fit and will be stronger than fibreglass

Thats why I ws linking, expensive for a non genuine part

OEM FTW!
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: richw911 on 28 May 2009, 22:37
Still a rep though, need modding and may not fit properly
Seen a few gen kits go on ebay for £400-£500 second hand, I'd rather pay the extra and have something which you know will fit and will be stronger than fibreglass



OEM FTW!

Yes yes and yes  :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: Steve_PD on 28 May 2009, 22:40
Thats the going rate for them  :sad: OEM bumpers from the stealers are £600 ish  :laugh:
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: the_stink on 29 May 2009, 08:45
yeah avoid fibre glass at all costs!!! ABS FTW
Title: Re: Getting a feeler...
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 31 May 2009, 00:13
Thanks for that Stronz :) that's really helped quite a bit. I must be on 30MPG - 35MPG on my 1.8 GL at the moment so so long as it's around that that'll be groovy. I really want one in Reflex Silver.
1.8T In Reflex Silver=Best Colour