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Title: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 24 May 2009, 22:17
i have had my 1.8t for a couple of weeks now and i am beginning to wonder if its down on power.
after driving my mk3 16v for a while then jumping into the 1.8t, it just dont seem any more powerful.. maybe it needs to be driven differently. my mk3 would go well but you had to get the revs up to get it to move. but the 1.8t seems to have plenty low down grunt but then when the revs are up theres not much pull..
i know the 16v and 1.8t are both 150bhp standard but they both feel so different.
i am new to turbo charged cars so that may have something to do with it.????...
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Wazzzer on 24 May 2009, 22:25
they're not exactly what you'd call a "rapid" car standard so don't worry mate, there's probably nothing wrong with it
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: bobbarley on 24 May 2009, 22:27
If you're really bothered, get a fault code reader or something, to see if there's any faults.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Ant1981 on 24 May 2009, 22:52
1.8Ts are just dosile cars really, if it had that power without the turbo, it'd go like a rocket like my Mk2 GTi did.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Steve_PD on 24 May 2009, 22:53
Or speak to Nick at R-Tech and get it booked in for a remap  :evil:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: the_stink on 25 May 2009, 09:07
yeah bog standard the Turbo's dont exactly leave you feeling liek your in a turbo car, once Nick and Ben give you a stage 1  :laugh: that all changes really shifts and got more pull through out the rev range, well worth while!!
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 25 May 2009, 09:07
If you're really bothered, get a fault code reader or something, to see if there's any faults.
already done that,, seems pretty healthy in that respect.. its not running lumpy either..
needs a bigger turbo and remap me thinks...
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 25 May 2009, 09:09
yeah bog standard the Turbo's dont exactly leave you feeling liek your in a turbo car, once Nick and Ben give you a stage 1  :laugh: that all changes really shifts and got more pull through out the rev range, well worth while!!
i have been left wondering, if its worth just getting a remap, or saving my pennies and getting a ko3s first before hand?.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: the_stink on 25 May 2009, 09:15
yeah bog standard the Turbo's dont exactly leave you feeling liek your in a turbo car, once Nick and Ben give you a stage 1  :laugh: that all changes really shifts and got more pull through out the rev range, well worth while!!
i have been left wondering, if its worth just getting a remap, or saving my pennies and getting a ko3s first before hand?.

All depends what you want, if your lookign for bigger power in the long run then mabe gettign a ko3s would be worth while but the map itself will be the biggest change over changing the turbo you will be smiling trust me i was  :grin:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Rhyso on 25 May 2009, 09:42
yeah bog standard the Turbo's dont exactly leave you feeling liek your in a turbo car, once Nick and Ben give you a stage 1  :laugh: that all changes really shifts and got more pull through out the rev range, well worth while!!
i have been left wondering, if its worth just getting a remap, or saving my pennies and getting a ko3s first before hand?.

remap will improve things but the KO3 can only handle and maintain so much boost.  a KO3s will help help maintain the power and boost further up the rev range.  Ivor's car is a very good example of an KO3s AGU :afro:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 25 May 2009, 09:44
yeah bog standard the Turbo's dont exactly leave you feeling liek your in a turbo car, once Nick and Ben give you a stage 1  :laugh: that all changes really shifts and got more pull through out the rev range, well worth while!!
i have been left wondering, if its worth just getting a remap, or saving my pennies and getting a ko3s first before hand?.

All depends what you want, if your lookign for bigger power in the long run then mabe gettign a ko3s would be worth while but the map itself will be the biggest change over changing the turbo you will be smiling trust me i was  :grin:
lol.
o.k, everybody seems happy with a remap.
looks like thats the next step i will take...
cheers..
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: AlanD on 25 May 2009, 10:32
Remapping is the way forward :D
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 25 May 2009, 12:13
Remapping is the way forward :D
Agreed  :smiley: and a 'miltek' turbo-back system also  :grin:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: AlanD on 25 May 2009, 12:13
Well, yes that to, but I was just starting off slowly for him lol
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: richw911 on 25 May 2009, 12:19
Remapping is the way forward :D
Agreed  :smiley: and a 'miltek' turbo-back system also  :grin:

+1  :laugh:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 25 May 2009, 12:31
Well, yes that to, but I was just starting off slowly for him lol
lol  :grin: :laugh: if he's anything like me that'l come after a re-map slippery slope an all that  :laugh:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: AlanD on 25 May 2009, 12:32
lol isnt it just.

I thought to myself, get a MK5, there wont be much need to mod it will there . . . .  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: richw911 on 25 May 2009, 12:34
lol isnt it just.

I thought to myself, get a MK5, there wont be much need to mod it will there . . . .  :lipsrsealed:

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/richw911/slope.jpg)

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 25 May 2009, 14:47
Remapping is the way forward :D
Agreed  :smiley: and a 'miltek' turbo-back system also  :grin:
just the remap and turbo will do for me for the time being. unless i can find a close to oem (looking and sounding) exhaust then i wont bother with a wooo shiney one..
i know miltek are a good brand but unless its quiet then i dont want it..
lets just say i want a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Rhyso on 25 May 2009, 14:49
Remapping is the way forward :D
Agreed  :smiley: and a 'miltek' turbo-back system also  :grin:
just the remap and turbo will do for me for the time being. unless i can find a close to oem (looking and sounding) exhaust then i wont bother with a wooo shiney one..
i know miltek are a good brand but unless its quiet then i dont want it..
lets just say i want a wolf in sheeps clothing.

Milltek resonated is quiet until you boot it  :wink: then it rumbles nicely  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Ant1981 on 25 May 2009, 22:09
Cat back?

Has anybody fitted their own?
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 25 May 2009, 23:17
Cat back?

Has anybody fitted their own?
you need the turbo-back fecking awesome :afro:  :grin:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Ant1981 on 25 May 2009, 23:22
Even the cat back is too much money.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: northeast_gti-t on 25 May 2009, 23:24
Even the cat back is too much money.
there worth the money believe me but what about custom or a blueflame ivor has a blueflame fitted  :wink:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Ant1981 on 25 May 2009, 23:36
I'm not spending that kind of money on one of these sh!tty cars.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 25 May 2009, 23:59
I'm not spending that kind of money on one of these sh!tty cars.
good answer.
my answer is, im just not spending that kind on a bit of pipe.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Wazzzer on 26 May 2009, 12:01
well if you're not prepared to put the work and money into it stop moaning about the Golf not having any power
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: AlanD on 26 May 2009, 17:24
well if you're not prepared to put the work and money into it stop moaning about the Golf not having any power

Well said that man !
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 26 May 2009, 17:28
well if you're not prepared to put the work and money into it stop moaning about the Golf not having any power
gains can be had other ways, you dont have to go the £300 quid route to get an extra 5bhp from a shiney pipe, and it doesnt have to be stainless steel either. yes, stainless is better, but not the expense i want to pay at the moment.
maybe upgrading the turbo, remap and a Diy decat.
and im not moaning either, just gauging the fact that my 16v seemed to have more grunt.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Ant1981 on 26 May 2009, 18:54
well if you're not prepared to put the work and money into it stop moaning about the Golf not having any power

No  :tongue:

I can moan all I like about it, as if it had the rated BHP without the turbo, it wouldn't be so dosile. It's my car and I'll moan about it all I like and spend nothing on it if I so wish not to.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: AlanD on 26 May 2009, 20:43
I'm not spending that kind of money on one of these sh!tty cars.

R-Tech do some pretty good deals on remaps for the 1.8T and you will get a discount for being on the forum. For a few hundred quid to release the potential of the 1.8T it really isn't that much.
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: JC on 26 May 2009, 21:21
well if you're not prepared to put the work and money into it stop moaning about the Golf not having any power
gains can be had other ways, you dont have to go the £300 quid route to get an extra 5bhp from a shiney pipe, and it doesnt have to be stainless steel either. yes, stainless is better, but not the expense i want to pay at the moment.
maybe upgrading the turbo, remap and a Diy decat.
and im not moaning either, just gauging the fact that my 16v seemed to have more grunt.


or just buy a MkII Valver  :grin:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Steve_PD on 26 May 2009, 22:04
should have bought a diesel  :lipsrsealed: :grin:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jeynesey on 26 May 2009, 22:21
should have bought a diesel  :lipsrsealed: :grin:

Lol maybe your right!! :grin:
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: jamie16v on 27 May 2009, 12:10
well if you're not prepared to put the work and money into it stop moaning about the Golf not having any power
gains can be had other ways, you dont have to go the £300 quid route to get an extra 5bhp from a shiney pipe, and it doesnt have to be stainless steel either. yes, stainless is better, but not the expense i want to pay at the moment.
maybe upgrading the turbo, remap and a Diy decat.
and im not moaning either, just gauging the fact that my 16v seemed to have more grunt.


or just buy a MkII Valver  :grin:
but then you are limited with tunability, the point i was getting at is, for the cost of decent exhaust outweighs the benifits..
Title: Re: beginning to wonder- 1.8t power
Post by: Wazzzer on 27 May 2009, 14:12
get it remapped then, £200 and you'll have a 190bhp ish Golf