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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: carlos85 on 18 May 2009, 13:54

Title: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 18 May 2009, 13:54
I know this has prob been asked before. I've read something on here about the coil pack controling the rev counter, is this true? i've had a look and there is some plugs missing from the pack (i.e. not plugged in). Could this be why they are not working?
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 18 May 2009, 14:14
rev counter comes from the red/black wire on coil, most mk2s have 1 spade plug on block wire side of coil spare, has what looks liek a snapped off plug on it, but its actually there to prevent you shorting anything out on that terminal as its ignition live.
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 18 May 2009, 17:48
this is what it looks like

(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7032/dsc01166.jpg)
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: squires on 18 May 2009, 22:27
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=112983.0

presuming yours is 90 spec, to get mine working i just unplugged fuse 21 a refitted anfter a few seconds.
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 18 May 2009, 23:20
i've done that as the clock is working
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 19 May 2009, 12:16
yeah that is correct carlos, the front spade is unused on most mk2s, though you should have that p'snapped plug' i mentioned. not the end of the world though, just means be carefull when messin around in that area you dont short it!
to test if the rev signal is getting to clocks, disconnect the yellow wire from the big white sensor on top of the oil filter housing, then rev the engine over 2krpm. the oil light and buzzer should sound. if they do the rev signal is getting to the clocks but the rev counter is dead. if it makes no noise then either the rev signal wire is snapped, or there is damage inside the clocks that is stoppign the signal getting to both the rev counter and the oil pressure warnign circuit.
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 19 May 2009, 13:27
i'll give that ago :)

when i got the car it was fitted with mk3 clocks & i think the rev counter was working on them. I've since changed the dash wiring and the speedo cable.
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 19 May 2009, 14:48
ah that could explain it, is it still runnign mk3 clocks? if not you'll need to check behind the fusebox, the mk3 clocks wont work with the mk2 rev counter signal, you have to splice it to pin 7 of the TCI-H unit.  My guess is there is some splicing behind the dash and this is why the mk2 clocks arnt working :)
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 19 May 2009, 16:46
i took the mk3 clocks out for mk2 single pin ones. I've changed the loom, so it's all mk2 instead of mk3. The only thing is that the mk3 had an electric speedo that i changed, but the plug is still part of the engine loom.
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 19 May 2009, 17:03
ok, im thinking either clocks are bust or there is still a bit of dody loom behind the fusebox, have a look at the TCI-H unit check to see if it has any wires spliced into pin 7!
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 19 May 2009, 17:46
which is the TCI-H unit?
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 19 May 2009, 17:58
its the 7 pin thingy bolted to the top of the ecu bracket, its under the plastic trim over the scuttle area on the driver side :)

looks like zis
(http://vwtech.no-ip.info/images/golf/cabby28.jpg)
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 24 May 2009, 16:52
i've just cut out the mk3 speedo sensor plug and found that one of the cables was wired to a grey/red wire that is on G1 on the fuse box
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 26 May 2009, 10:34
have a look at the fusebox faq, you should be able to figure out what goes where :)
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 26 May 2009, 12:51
i've just had a look and can't find the cable on the list  :undecided:
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 26 May 2009, 13:17
G1
12- red/blk- ignition coil pin 1 and/or TCI Unit (Digifant control relay)

U1
6 - grn - Dash plug pin 10 (rev counter pin 1)
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 26 May 2009, 14:32
i mean for the grey/red cable, it's next to the red/black one on the plug
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 26 May 2009, 14:41
from the MK3 fusebox listing (its on page 3)
F
4 - brn - vehicle speed sensor pin 3

G1
4 - blk - ECU pin 38, gearbox speed sensor, ignition coil pin 3
11- wht/blu - vehicle speed sensor pin 2
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 26 May 2009, 14:56
so i need to check

G1
12- red/blk- ignition coil pin 1 and/or TCI Unit (Digifant control relay)

U1
6 - grn - Dash plug pin 10 (rev counter pin 1)
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 26 May 2009, 15:51
yes, thats the rev counter wire.

coil -> G1 -> inside fusebox -> U1 -> dash clocks rev counter
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 26 May 2009, 17:12
they don't seem to be cut
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 26 May 2009, 17:58
try a wire from the U plug direct to the rev counter side of coil. oh and double check U1/6 runs to dash plug pin 10.
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: carlos85 on 26 May 2009, 19:38
brake it down, i'm lost lol
Title: Re: Rev Counter Not Working
Post by: rubjonny on 27 May 2009, 07:58
as in, run a fresh wire straight to pin 10 on the clocks, from the coil ;)
but double check U1/6 from fusebox runs to pin 10 on the dash clocks before you start splicing :)