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Title: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: the dude on 13 May 2009, 11:06
Hi guys, took my mk3 for a service yesterday, tehy were unable to change the oil as teh screw had been stuck in with filler, and didnt want to take it out incase it wouldnt go back in, so they said they need to order a new one direct from VW, though it costs £150 from them and no one else does them, I have seen some on e bay for about £60, but was also wonering if this is a part you can use from second hand? just trying to save a bit of money as it needs quite a bit doing to it.
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: axewielder on 13 May 2009, 12:58
wow £150 deffo dont do that lol, id get one from scrappy/ ebay whatevers cheapest, just make sure that the sump plug thread isnt stripped cos that would just be a waste of time+ money :rolleyes:
You could always just helicoil, drill out + rethread your existing sump, they might even do it for you, have to ask though??
good luck neway
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: faz186 on 13 May 2009, 13:08
i had the same prob when i had my valver and my mates garage have this suction pipe thing wich they put down the dip stick thingy and they did it that way,

the garage you went to might not have it but its a good tool for sumps that dont come off,

but best thing is ring scrappys it will cost you way more than dealers, just make sure the boldt comes of when you get 1 and keep it greases
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: Wayne on 13 May 2009, 13:08
Pick up a s/h sump and change it yourself, easy enough to do.
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: Mikester on 13 May 2009, 13:10
Gsf sell sump pans, DannyGL just bought one. If i remember rightly it was like £25 for the sump pan. lol
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: Mikester on 13 May 2009, 13:12
11635           SUMP PAN           G3 2.0 8v MPi 11/91 >2/99           21.00           Add

11638           SEAL-SUMP DRAIN PLUG           G3 All Ex.16V           0.20           Add

11638B           SEAL-SUMP DRAIN PLUG           G3 2.0 16V ABF Eng.           0.60           Add


Dont sell the pan for a 16v or VR though, dont know what you have? Maybe thats the problem.
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: Mikester on 13 May 2009, 13:15
EuroCarParts dont do a sump pan for a 16v, but do the one for a VR6. Still only half the £150scene tax price:

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Volkswagen_Golf_2.8_1996/p/Car-Parts/Engine-Parts/Engine-Parts/Sump-Pans

Golf VR6 (1992-1998) Mark III (Hatchback)
Years: 01/92-06/98 Engine: 2792cc 12v 6Cyl

£78.20
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: Paul86S2 on 13 May 2009, 14:32
The steel sump from the 8v will fit and abf engine. You will need slightly shorter bolts than the abf ones to fit it though.

Paul
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: the dude on 13 May 2009, 15:00
cool, quite tempted to get the old one sucked out as get the feeling that if I get a new one it will just happen all over.
I have a 16V, but will look around some scrappys and see if they have any for sale.
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: BigDaveC on 13 May 2009, 15:18
16v sump pan is VW only and made of alloy so it's expensive ! 8v won't fit so don't bother with a steel one !
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: Paul86S2 on 13 May 2009, 17:11
16v sump pan is VW only and made of alloy so it's expensive ! 8v won't fit so don't bother with a steel one !
According to the info I have you can fit the 8v steel ones to a 16v.

Also fairly (99%) certain that my 16v has a steel sump fitted, will check at the weekend.

Any reason why you say the 8v steel one won't fit - I looked into it a while ago when I wanted to fit sump baffles and the info i was given at the time said they were interchangeable as lonh as you used the shorter bolts for the steel one.

I haven't tried this yet, but am interested to find out if you have had problems going down this route. The gasket is the same for the 8v and 16v so the shape is the same, and as I said it looks like my 16v has had a steel sump put on sometime earlier on in its life.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: BigDaveC on 13 May 2009, 18:34
it was a long time ago, but when i changed my sump i don't think the steel one lined up correctly at all.....
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: rob026 on 14 May 2009, 02:43
Was just about to post thred on this very same subject, have a valver with same issue, best get saving, £150 bucks  :sick:  :cry:
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: axewielder on 14 May 2009, 09:21
if its just the sump plug threads are stripped/ buggered y no just drill out, tap with larger thread+use a bigger bolt from some other car/normal bolt with copper washer, alot cheaper than 150big ones  :sick:
Title: Re: Oil sump needs replacing
Post by: Paul86S2 on 16 May 2009, 13:02
it was a long time ago, but when i changed my sump i don't think the steel one lined up correctly at all.....
Just been under mine to install a solid front engine mount - anyway mine has definately got a steel sump fitted to it now, the part number label has faded so I cant give you the part number.
According to some info on another site you can fit the sump and windage tray from a diesel to a valver and also any big block engine sump ie: Mk3 2.0 8v and the mk2 16v.

Cheers

Paul