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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: d4w50n on 08 May 2009, 17:47

Title: Induction kti question
Post by: d4w50n on 08 May 2009, 17:47
I was just wondering...

On a Golf 1.8 CL which has reportedly 75bhp... what sort of hp increase would a standard (probably K&N) induction kit provide?

It's a petrol, not a diesel (sadly, next golf I get will probs be a GT TDI), in case that makes a difference...

Thanks
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: daimo on 08 May 2009, 17:53
if its a decent kit your probably looking at between 2-5 bhp
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: shepgti on 08 May 2009, 17:58
if its a decent kit your probably looking at between 2-5 bhp

haha someone belives what the suppliers say  :wink:  truth is if its a kit without a GOOD cold air feed your likely to have no gain (possibly even a loss) even with a good cold feed you would only see 1-2bhp tops but they do sound great  :grin:
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: gazpowells on 09 May 2009, 12:17
As shepgti said above if you want a power gain you need a really good cold air feed  :smiley:
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: Mikester on 09 May 2009, 16:34
As shepgti said above if you want a power gain you need a really good cold air feed  :smiley:

You need industrial size tubing coming from every gap on the front or your car, and bonnet lifters.

This with a cone fileter will give you 20bhp.

Easy... :laugh:
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: d4w50n on 10 May 2009, 15:29
Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful.

Dunno about using industrial tubing from every gap on the bonnet, I'd imagine the tubing would get in the way of other components when it comes to working on any other part of the engine? And bonnet lifters?!

Still, a boost of 20bhp would be nice...
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: eightyeightmph on 10 May 2009, 15:59
Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful.

Dunno about using industrial tubing from every gap on the bonnet, I'd imagine the tubing would get in the way of other components when it comes to working on any other part of the engine? And bonnet lifters?!

Still, a boost of 20bhp would be nice...

You're not serious right?  :huh:

You know what sarcasm is?! Mikester was being sarcastic...

As said, on a good day, well maintained & serviced engine with a good free-flowing exhaust etc. you'd probably get an extra couple of horses from an induction kit with a dedicated (& shielded) air pipe.

On a standard 1.8 you're probably just gonna hear it if anything :afro:
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: d4w50n on 10 May 2009, 16:45
Ahh right, I just thought the "easy" bit was sarcastic lol... and I thought 20bhp was a bit of a high gain from an induction kit, but thought I'd take his word for it!

D'oh!
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: shepgti on 10 May 2009, 16:52
Ahh right, I just thought the "easy" bit was sarcastic lol... and I thought 20bhp was a bit of a high gain from an induction kit, but thought I'd take his word for it!

D'oh!

if only gaing horesys was that easy!!
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: Mikester on 10 May 2009, 17:00
Tbh, stick the cone on mate, It makes it sound nicer. And with a 75bhp if you loose 2bhp from "heat soke" or make 2bhp from the "cone filter" then its neither here nor there.

Do what you like, and it i will sound better ;)
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 10 May 2009, 17:14
Does the airbox sit at the back on that engine?
If so you will suck in hot air.
Gti's/Vr6's the box sits at the front, so ideal for picking up a good supply off cool air.
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: Mikester on 10 May 2009, 17:21
Does the airbox sit at the back on that engine?
If so you will suck in hot air.
Gti's/Vr6's the box sits at the front, so ideal for picking up a good supply off cool air.

It sits on top of the engine, although i believe you get a pipe that makes the cone sit in the same sort of position as the gti. The adaption pipe goes up and to the left sort of thing. Can see it in my head. Will try and a find a pic.
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 10 May 2009, 18:46
I see what you mean.
I'm still in favour of panel filter and drilled box on gti's over induction kits.
You then get good air flow without the hot air problems.
This obviously won't apply to the 1.8 engine.
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: shepgti on 10 May 2009, 21:34
I see what you mean.
I'm still in favour of panel filter and drilled box on gti's over induction kits.
You then get good air flow without the hot air problems.
This obviously won't apply to the 1.8 engine.

+1 :smiley:
Title: Re: Induction kti question
Post by: Mikester on 10 May 2009, 21:38
As i said earlier. This car isnt a performance machine. Do it for the noise and what you like.

If you gain 1bhp, or loose it through heat soak.

Who gives a crap, you probably loose more bhp through not servicing it right, and its age.