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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: Meatpie on 26 April 2009, 15:13

Title: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 26 April 2009, 15:13
Hi,

I seem to have a problem with my mk1 sportline, lurches when driving. There is also a squealing noise coming from where the fuel pump is, though this fuel pump is less than a year old. It makes driving not only a pain but also a little dangerous.

Car went in to a garage once for this problem already, they seemed to have sorted it but they did'nt know what was the problem, and since then I had some bad dealings with them so don't want to go back to them.

Can anybody advise?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: rubjonny on 27 April 2009, 08:25
sounds like fuel starvation tothe main pump, being a sportline it should have a lift pump, perhaps that has died/is blocked or the reservoir under the car is clogged.  pull the plug from the main pump under the car and turn the key 1 click, you should hear the lift pump prime. if it sounds ok, remove the rear seat and take off the round flap under there, the lifter pump is under there.  pop it out (twist and lift) then check the straner on the bottom isnt blocked, if it is you have crud in your tank which ideally you want to clean out, check your filler neck isnt rusting thru :)
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 28 April 2009, 20:21
Thanks very much, info appreciated.

Took it to a more reputable garage, they had a listen and established that the lift pump was shot. Maybe a faulty part from GSF.

Going to have to get a new one and send old one back to GSF for them to inspect, might get my money back on it though im not holding my breath.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: rubjonny on 05 May 2009, 16:50
do you recal if it had a mesh filter on it?  if the filter fell off or was missing it might have sucked up crud from the tank and died?
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 24 June 2009, 13:31
not sure about the mesh.

Since last post, I have gone thru 2!! fuel pumps and a lot of money.

Car squeals under braking, nothing to do with the brakes tho as squealing coming from fuel tank/pump area. Local mechanic insists there is no lift pump, as was main pump he replaced last (he says that Injection models don't have a lift pump).

It's getting me down, can't make any progress at all.

Any ideas? Im getting desperate now.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: rubjonny on 25 June 2009, 11:16
he is wrong, later MK1 cabrios do have a lift pump. get it replaced:
18389 - FUEL PUMP-IN TANK - 21.50

what year is it?
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 25 June 2009, 13:18
K-reg, 1992/3. I have had the hatch off from the underside of the back seat, but havent gone any further as don't have facilities to do so(any work done would have to be at the side of the road :s).

Is the sender the item with the 2 hoses and plug into the top? or is this a pump?

I think I will have to take the plunge at some point and do the work myself. Just need confirmation before I do so.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: rubjonny on 25 June 2009, 13:30
100% that car has a lift pump. the pump and sender on these is all one unit, what you see with the 2 fuel pipes is the one :)
to release it you need to twist it anti-clockwise then it'll lift out of the tank.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: eyeletboy on 26 June 2009, 23:37
As rubjonny says there is a lift pump on your sportline.I remember checking mine about 3 years ago.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Kevscab on 26 June 2009, 23:48
Check your filler neck and tank, once this breaks up the crap (rust) makes it's way into the tank and regardless how many times you clean the filter or replace the pump the crap will still get up and cause issues once again.

Solution is to drain the fuel, remove the sender and filter then get something in their to suck out the debris. I used a shultz gun fitted with tube, made easy work of it.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 30 June 2009, 14:06
Had a problem with getting the pump & sender out, wouldnt turn anticlockwise. Gave it a tap tho ontop with spanner (not hammer :P) and has worked better since, although still lurches a little. Seems definite that its crap in the tank, just need to find somewhere to do the work now. Going to buy a stainless filler neck, for the longer life. Just really annoyed that I cant even find a garage that are competant/knowledgeable enough to sort these problems :(.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Kevscab on 30 June 2009, 18:14
Glad your getting somewhere with it, mine started 5 mile away from the sellers home and I was so close to taking it back and getting my dosh back, I see loads of mk1's especially later clippers and GTI's at knock down prices because they have running issues.

Most are cars that have had new carbs, pumps etc but rarely have their tanks drained or renewed.
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: SoundillusioN on 01 July 2009, 00:11
Glad your getting somewhere with it, mine started 5 mile away from the sellers home and I was so close to taking it back and getting my dosh back, I see loads of mk1's especially later clippers and GTI's at knock down prices because they have running issues.

Most are cars that have had new carbs, pumps etc but rarely have their tanks drained or renewed.
True, that and/or mangled electrics.  :cry:
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 01 July 2009, 21:34
I know all about that, I had the buzzer going behind the dash(got sorted as a result of engine rebuild). Had wipers going by themselves as and when they wanted. Would love to have a garage to work in, and I would replace all the wiring. Shame really.

What would you guys recommend for me draining the tank(time, items required, etc?) and also, if I take out the sender/lift pump, will there be a chance of damaging the sender seal?
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 20 July 2009, 13:58
JOY!

Took my car back to the garage, fought my corner and insisted that the mechanic take a look to see the lift pump. Sure enough, he looked and found it. Got him to replace lift pump and clean crap out of tank, now there's no lurching and no squealing from the main pump.

Thanks rj for help, and you other guys for advice :)
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: rubjonny on 20 July 2009, 14:54
did he enjoy nthe taste of his humble pie?  :grin:
Title: Re: Lurching sportline problem.
Post by: Meatpie on 23 July 2009, 11:54
lol dont know about that, he certainly got force-fed it
:P

I think I will continue to use them, now they respect my authoritaaa!!

I will just have to make sure that they do what I tell them, as opposed to whatever they want.

That is until i get myself a garage, then it's all in my hands:)