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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: dan7 on 25 April 2009, 20:00
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Was thinking of doing this conversion on my 90 spec GTi next year some time. Is it much work, regarding loom work and stuff?
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G60 engine\parts are expensive and hard to find nowadays, given the price and frequency of charger rebuilds - seems like a bizarre conversion to go for given what else is available.
I'd be more interested in a slightly tuned up ABF, that could see 170-200bhp. It doesn't quite have the same charm or prestige as the G60, but is a pretty sensible option.
For big power there's the 1.8T, for the sound there's a VR6 (or supercharged ;) )
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I looked into the g60 route a few years back and came to the same conclusion as Ben.... you can get alot more for your money elsewhere and not have to rebuild a charger every not so many miles (althought I do love the g60 whine when its going).
I will say after having a mk2 1.8t they go like sh!te of a shovel, but they are souless next to a mk2 vr6 and all that noise.
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I totally understand what you're saying regarding bang for buck and all that. I'm just so in love with the charger whine!!!!
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Tighten your alternator belt so that the bearings start to squeel. Cheaper :cool:
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Good idea! And alternators are cheaper than chargers!!! :smug:
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Mine doesn't whine! :undecided: Or perhaps I can't hear it under the sound of the exhaust. And yes it does work. I know that because trounced 3 new Scirroco 2.0 TSI's today! :grin: :cool:
Do you intend to do a full conversion, or build a 16v with a G Lader compressor?
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you might need the fusebox out of a G60 or a Digi powered 8v Gti. but pretty straight forward, and youll never get tired of the noise, even if it does eat your money :evil:
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i've looked into it big time
http://www.orz-motorsport.com/16VG60%20engine.html
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Mine doesn't whine! :undecided: Or perhaps I can't hear it under the sound of the exhaust. And yes it does work. I know that because trounced 3 new Scirroco 2.0 TSI's today! :grin: :cool:
Do you intend to do a full conversion, or build a 16v with a G Lader compressor?
Is it pretty easy to convert my valver into a G60 then? 16v G60???
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Not at all, the G60 is 8v to start with and runs Digi1. I'd bet your engine is K-Jet if its 16v. Running boost through a K-Jet isn't practical or easy to set up (by the sounds of things).
Unless you have a full donor G60 with ECU, Engine + Box and full loom - its simply not a good idea.
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there conversion kit looks like a good deal $2500
but there is still more stuff needed
what power do you expect ???
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there conversion kit looks like a good deal $2500
Plus the cost of buying an entire G60 engine though :(
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they recon there conversion kit is set up for 250 h.p as the original g60 limiteds were 210 h.p
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wouldnt it be easier to do the 16v conversion on an ABF? considering ABF lumps only go for a couple of hundred. or do i talk crap?
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you choudl do a ABF g60 but may as well be based on the PG or KR dosent really matter whitch. you needs to get hold of some AUDI s2 5cyl 20VT pistons ( you can also use the rods ) if the bores in your engine are good they'll go straight in, then bolt the G60 bracketry to the frount of the motor, bit of a nightmare to source the alternator brackets, you use DF 1 with a chip from sns
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Mine doesn't whine! :undecided: Or perhaps I can't hear it under the sound of the exhaust. And yes it does work. I know that because trounced 3 new Scirroco 2.0 TSI's today! :grin: :cool:
Do you intend to do a full conversion, or build a 16v with a G Lader compressor?
Is it pretty easy to convert my valver into a G60 then? 16v G60???
Anything is possible if you have the knowledge and the funds to back up your dreams.
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one thing you must remember is on r.h.d cars the alternator fouls on the brake servo, this is because they have to mount the alternater at the rear as the charger goes in front. so you would either need a remote servo or to relocate the alternator.
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one thing you must remember is on r.h.d cars the alternator fouls on the brake servo, this is because they have to mount the alternater at the rear as the charger goes in front. so you would either need a remote servo or to relocate the alternator.
You can relocate the alternator below the charger using the AC pump bracket. You need to run a smaller alternator, a mk3 vr6 one for instance.
You need to spacer out the pulley on the alternator and possibly on the charger, cant remember exactly.
H981cvv, i notice your in cornwall, you had any dealings with rk engineering in st agnes? If not, i recommend you find an excuse to go down there and check out jeremys abf 16vg60 corrado, he's just mnaged to get 300hp out of it :cool:
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I was going to get all the bits for my old Rallye to get a 16vG60 setup, I had a 9a engine that I was going to use, but apparently a KR is stronger (all opinions I know.........). It is very expensive and as said parts can be a nightmare. If your serious, have a look a BBM, but even they have stopped doing the conversion kits. I agree the whine of the G60 is something I fell in love with and still love the sound. If you can afford it, go get it as a 1.8T comes now where near for the sound! :cool:
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chris, cant say i've ever heard of rk engineering until now, will definately try and visit, you recomend them then?