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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: MK3TDi1996 on 23 April 2009, 17:30
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howdi y'all
Looking at upgrading the rather shoddy brakes on my mk3 TDI!
Hoping to get (as the title suggests) brakes from a 1995 VR6 - the guy only has the rear brakes available as the fronts have sold - My questions are these, what bits do I need, will I be fine running rear vr6 discs/calipers etc and standard TDI (for the time being) at the front and how much is a fair price to pay for th rear setup?
Thanks!
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get the entire rear beam. looking £50 with everything on i would have thought.
the gti/vr6 has built in anti roll bar and having the entire rear beam just makes life easier, as you can bolt yours off and bolt on the new one, and connect up the brake lines and handbrake cables.
not 100% about the mk3 tdi, but i think you may need vr6 handbrake cables. i needed to get gti ones as they are longer to suit the new beam. also not sure if the mk3 tdi is 4 or 5 stud? if its 4 stud and you want to keep it 4 stud, then you are going to need a set of mk2 gti discs.
the brakes are 226mm on the rear. would have thought it a sensible idea to get some 280 brakes at the front too. get some gti/vr6 280mm calipers/carriers and bolt them on. once again, if you want to keep 4 stud you will need new discs, in which case you will need g60 front discs.
im currently doin this upgrade and keeping my car 4 stud btw.
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Cheers for the info!
I'm on a 4-stud and would like to keep in that way!
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no worries. just get yourself some g60 front discs and mk2 gti rear discs
im rebuilding the rear beam while its off. so stripped it down and replacing everything. also coating it all in hammerite. new bearings, discs, pads. need a flaring kit to do my hard lines. ohh and i got goodridge brake lines in black with stainless steel fixings :cool:
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awesome ;)
Do I not need to brake blancing bit of bias doo dah while i'm at it?
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ohh the brake bias valve. yeah i heard this and that about using them. but i think you need to use it.
not sure if your current setup has one or if it does, if it can be used with 226mm disc brakes?
best off getting the one that goes with the vr6 rear beam and brakes your getting.
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You should already have a brake bias valve as standard.
Why are wanting to switch to discs by the way.
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I like them :)
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I like them :)
The choice is yours but well set up drums are as good and a lot less hassle.
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i will be running 230bhp, so need more stopping power. 280's at front, figured might as well throw them on the rear too, gotta be better than drums. ohh and i like them better too!
as for brake bias valve, are they all the same on the mk3? meaning i can just use the one on there and i dont need a new one?
:)
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Thought 16v and Vr6 fronts were 288 discs?
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nah the later mk3s had 288's - 280's were on the older mk3.
vr6/gti 8v/gti 16v all have same fronts brakes. g60 is same just 4 stud.
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Yup as above.
Someone put 280mm disks on mine, ate my pads! :angry:
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right, all this talk of different size discs has me confused - I want 4 stud brakes, just using a rear beam from a VR6 right? - what discs do I need?? front + back
thanks
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Mk2 G60 disks front
Mk2 GTi disks Rear
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Thanks :)
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288mm were on VR's
And 280 on gti + 16v.
288mm then was put on all gti + vr's towards the end of the production.
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just get yourself some g60 front discs and mk2 gti rear discs
:afro:
+ mike, is that actually what it was? lol, getton m8
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just get yourself some g60 front discs and mk2 gti rear discs
:afro:
+ mike, is that actually what it was? lol, getton m8
As far as i know, cus my 1996 8v gti has 288mm, but i believe decs 1995? 16v has 280mm. But then a VR has 288mm all years long.
Hit and miss really. But you need to check first.
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just get yourself some g60 front discs and mk2 gti rear discs
:afro:
+ mike, is that actually what it was? lol, getton m8
As far as i know, cus my 1996 8v gti has 288mm, but i believe decs 1995? 16v has 280mm. But then a VR has 288mm all years long.
Hit and miss really. But you need to check first.
yeah cool, i thought that the gti changed to 288 in 1996, but i didnt realise the vr was 288 the whole time. i thought it changed with the gti.
good shout :)
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16v Gti's don't have the rear brake bias valve, and I'm fairly certain the VR6 doesn't either, so it won't have one on the vr6 rear beam.
Paul
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16v Gti's don't have the rear brake bias valve, and I'm fairly certain the VR6 doesn't either, so it won't have one on the vr6 rear beam.
Paul
is this really true? would make life easier, anyone have a look on there 16v and let me know cause my brakes came off a valver.
cheers.
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okay - do i need the bias valve?
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yes no??
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i'm going to see a VR6 on sunday and i'm taking the rear brakes - exactly what bits do i need?
thanks
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The entire rear beam and everything attached.
abs stuff if you got that, but i didnt bother with it.
get new handbrake cables from gsf.
dont go cutting anything if you can help it, unless your going to replace it. i cut the handbrake cables, as i bought new ones (recommended). cut abs if you dnt need it. you will see what i mean when you get there and you will see the cables and piping, etc that attaches the car to the beam.
the rear beam is held on to the brackets via rear beam bushes and a bolt. you want to keep the beam and bracket attached, and remove both as one piece. i think there is 3 bolts holding the each bracket to the car, one bracket each side. make sure you detach all the brake lines, cables, etc before undoing the bolt.
LL ;)