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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: skitzasista on 17 April 2009, 15:23
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Hiya
I could really do with some help, I've been offered a mark 1 golf clipper convertible to buy. It had no mot so went in today and failed on a couple of things. The main one being emmissions. Its a 92 on a k plate registered Aug 92.
The MOT station has stated it has failed with the cat and lambda sensor. I have since tried unsucessfully to find a cat to fit but all records at garages are coming up saying it doesn't have one and manufacturers have stopped making them, what do I do.
Apparently if it was resistered 1 day earlier it wouldn't need one so where do I get one from. Hope you can help I love the car but it seems to be slipping away from me.
Thanx in advance. :smiley:
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Damn that is very unlucky! On or after Aug 92 is indeed the cutoff point for cars with cats so you're scuppered on that front, only hope is finding an mot station that will test it as an earlier car, but with all the computerised stuff i dont know how easy that would be. The other thing you could do if you wanted it to pass legitamently, you could swap in an engine from an older car. The test is on the car or engine, whichever is older. but you have to prove the engine is older to the mot station:
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_730.htm
What you might possibly be able to do, is get on the phone to VW, with your engine number. Get them to send you documents that show exactly when your engine was made. If it is before aug 92 (which it must be, cant have built the car on the day it was registered :P) then this i think would be enough to get you through the test. Try your dealer 1st but generally they're a bit useless, there are some exceptions but the main UK HQ would be a better place to start calling :)
although it does say cars fitted with a different engine, so technically this shouldn't work. Worth a look into anyway!
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Quick update just been on the phone to VW they no longer do the downpipe or cat. The lad on the phone said as its just on the line and coming up on their records as no ca needed it may be a possiblity if a new full exhaust was put on it may go through!! Big risk though if it doesn't.
He said as they were obsolete entirely they wuld have to pass it. Sounds suss to me wouldn't like to chance that. Could it be as its sat for over a year that, that could affect the emmissions and not the cat etc? It drove lovely no hicks or anything.
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do you know what the emmissions were like? does it definitly have a cat on there right now, someone may have binned it.
depending how far the emmissions were out you may be able to tweak it to get them down a bit
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Hi
Apparently there is no cat on at the mo just found out.
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ah you'll struggle to get that to pass cat emmissions then! you could try the vw letter to show the engine is older than 92, or put an older engine in :grin:
Im sure a decent exhaust place should be able to put something together for you, or you may be able to get another one to fit. any idea of the engine code or what kinda zaust system it is, hard really to say how hard its going to be wityout being able to see what we are workin with
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Putting an older engine in will not help, mot standards are based on the date of first registration so if it should have a cat it will need one.
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My clipper is also a k plate, i was looking into getting a new cat for it, i didn't get one in the end but saw lots of the european and american websites sell cats that look exactly the same as the one fitted to mine, which are fitted on the mk1 Rabbit cab. I think techtonicstuning have them, if not, try searching on google for vw rabbit mk1 cat. There's defo some out there if you're desperate
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Putting an older engine in will not help, mot standards are based on the date of first registration so if it should have a cat it will need one.
Nope, it is either tested on the car, or the engine, whichever is older:
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_730.htm
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Putting an older engine in will not help, mot standards are based on the date of first registration so if it should have a cat it will need one.
Nope, it is either tested on the car, or the engine, whichever is older:
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_730.htm
1st I have ever heard of that.
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go on ebay and get a universal cat for about £30 and maybe a universal lambda probe with the right amount of wires as the one on the car will go straight through the mot then
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tah for all ya help guys I decided to buy the golf anyway far too good a condition to miss, got it for £700 no rust anywhere. Looking into the exhaust as we speak.
Is there a haynes manual available for this model 92 k reg clipper cabby. All the ones listed say not for use with the cabriolet.
Also what it has lmodern lupo gti wheels on it which I don't like, they look to modern for the car, what would be a good wheel to get plus tyre sizes please if you can help.
Thanx again in advance I'll pop some pics on soon.
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now theres a question..........
wheels are completely down to personal choice, obviously the guy or girl who put the lupo wheels on thought they looked good, so your best bet is to look around and se what takes your fancy, and more to the point what you can afford!!
easy options are the standard vw wheels from mk2 golfs or corrado's and the like which i think do look good if done right
as for size i'm not exactly sure but 16's will fit but i would stick to 14's or 15's with 195 tyres on them, this is only a personal preferance and i'm sure someone knows more about sizes and stuff
good luck with the search :rolleyes:
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Imerse yourself in this website and you'll find some wheels you like http://www.cleaned.be/gallery.php
Personally I would have 15s on a cab as I think 16s & 17s are too big. If you go 14s I think you need to slam it and have it look a bit stubby like this :cool:
(http://www.golfgti.co.uk/pageimages/featurecar/c1.jpg)
As for tyre sizes, that's a whole new thread. :grin:
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the brown MK1 haynes manual covers the cabby a bit iirc, I should know as I own one but now I cant recall! :grin:
Will check later. There is a Bentley manual that covers the MK1, cab and scirocco which is pretty damn good, but the MK1 haynes is very good unlike the MK2 haynes which is pretty poor in comparison.
As for wheels, cant go wrong with cross spokes, or something old skool. Bit of dish always looks good too! Heres a few I've played around with:
(http://vwtech.no-ip.info/images/golf/cabby11.jpg)
(http://vwtech.no-ip.info/images/golf/cabby30.jpg)
(http://vwtech.no-ip.info/images/golf/cabby32.jpg)
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Tah again folks so much help is great. Lots of wheels there to look at.
I do however have another lil problem, I brought the car home put it in the garage and went out today and tried to start it and it won't start. It has sat for over a year before I got it.
I have replaced the dizzy cap, leads and spark plugs. It is turning over just doesnt seem to want to fire up.
Tried jumping it with jump leads still no go, please help a desperate girl get her car going. Can't believe my luck. :cry:
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When you say it's a clipper is it actually called a clipper (carb model) as in not a GTI ? If it's a GTI I would say does the fuel pump prime as in can you hear a wurr behind the back wheel of the drivers side (I think). If it doesn't check the fuel relay and try sand papering the connections. The fuel relay will be the big relay, top right if it's a GTI if I remember correctly. I had a few probs with mine. If it's a carb model then check out this thread http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=18871.0