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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: celica on 12 April 2009, 23:09
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as the R32 is becoming more affordable, and especially some Ed30's costing more etc. Why did you choose the Gti/ Ed30 etc. over a R32?
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The thought of running a 3.2ltr car worried me. I initially wanted the Mk6 GTi but could'nt wait for it (the arrival of my daughter required a 5 door car asap) so for me a mk5 GTi was a sensible compromise. Not too heavy on fuel (?), insurance (i'm 41!) and vehicle tax.
I'm sure that owners of R32s can give you an idea on the running costs etc but I saved several thousand by opting for the GTi and have a car that does everything I need it to.
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lookoutsmudger , congrats on new arrival
what did the gti replace?
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R32 V6 zorst music versus GTI nimbler drive feel. The GTI won but the .:R would be a very close second choice.
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I opted for an ED30 over an R32 mainly due to 95% of the models being £400 tax a year and also general fuel consumption.
I think its important to put your car choice into your personal perspective. Everyone is different and require different things from their car.
For example - I use my ED30 to get to work and back which is just shy of a 40 mile round trip. Which IMO is not far enough to warrant an oil burner and yet far enough to make me forget about anything too thirsty.
When it comes down to it, it just depends on how much you are willing to fork out in running costs. To some people, its worth every penny.
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Couldn't live with a Zimmerframe strapped to the front of my car, so chose the ED30
*Ducks and hides*
*Comes up for air*
Seriously though, The ED30 was more nimble and just "felt" better on the road. The R32 makes it "too easy" if you know what I mean. The ED30 looks better (Although I do like the zorst and sound of the R32) and is ultimately more tuneable and faster. :wink: :cool:
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I didn't have to choose :wink:
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The thought never really crossed my mind, I wanted a TFSI after years of TDI and I fell in love when I saw the GTI concept so that was that.
I did have a quick look but they were £4k too much at the time of buying.
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As my previous cars had been 6 cylinders cars ( VR6/ 325i/ M3/ 330CI) I always though i wouldn't like the turbo power of the gti and would have to buy the R32. I had a scooby when they first came out but only kept it for a year as it was fast but got bored very quickly of having to stir the gearbox all the time to get power.
Always prefered the look of the gti over the mk 5 R32 as i thought it looked bland - poor wheels and front end.
I took the gti for a test ride and within minutes knew that i liked it. The power delivery was smoth rather than in yer face. I knew this was the car to buy.
3 years down the line i have no intentions to change even though this would normally be the time to trade.
The wife also loves it and would only change for a car that provides the same smiles per mile for drive and performance
We have just had a second kid and hope it serves us well and gets us past the pram stage.
Money has never really been a consideration when buying as when i bought the Gti i firstly test drove a X5 but found it really disappointing.
I am now at the point where i really don't know what to buy next. Quite fancy a 3 series touring but it must have a 6 cylinder engine. Any suggestions welcomed
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I have owned at r32 and now hav a gti. for me fuel was pretty similar. i hav always said the r32 is the better driving machine, however the gti is in a class of its own. it has more character. plus after a remap u will blow the r32 away lol.
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Over the last 4 years I went from Mk5 GTI (2.5 years) to ED30 (1 year) to now my R32 (6 months and counting). If I'm honest I found the ED30 to be lacking a bit in character over the normal GTI, hence why I didn't keep it very long. The GTI had better low down urge than the ED30, and made a better noise on full chat. The ED30 was a very fast car, especially once past 10k miles, and I've no doubt that once re-mapped an awesome tool. It just didn't give me the same special feeling that I had with the GTI. The R32 I find to be simply awesome - bags of character and the noise is to die for. Yes, the ED30 felt lighter but the R32 is more planted and far more capable round corners.
I'll be very interested to see what the new R20 will be like as on paper it looks like it could have the best of all worlds.
BTW, economy-wise not much in it. I do a daily 80 mile commute - both the GTI and ED30 averaged 29mpg and the R32 is returning 26mpg. The £400 a year tax will hurt though but then for every enjoyable thing in life there is always a downside :)
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jackc, good reply.
i can only assume you preferred the k03 turbo in the gti as opposed to the k04 in the Ed30, which meant the gti spooled up quicker lower down?
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I was going to look at the R32 and could have got one for what I paid for my Ed 30 DSG .... Why :
Tax
Petrol (had V6 4motion so knew roughly what to expect : on my route with my style of driving it would have been 20-22mpg as opposed to 28-30mpg)
4wd too good to enjoy - if that makes sense : on V6 4motion it was so good it almost makes the car boring
Image compared to GTi
Looks (don't like exhausts)
Smaller boot
Can't remap
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I was going to look at the R32 and could have got one for what I paid for my Ed 30 DSG .... Why :
Tax
Petrol (had V6 4motion so knew roughly what to expect : on my route with my style of driving it would have been 20-22mpg as opposed to 28-30mpg)
4wd too good to enjoy - if that makes sense : on V6 4motion it was so good it almost makes the car boring
Image compared to GTi
Looks (don't like exhausts)
Smaller boot
Can't remap
I can understand everyone of those, except the exhaust look :shocked: Thats usually the one thing the GTI'ers want lol
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I was going to look at the R32 and could have got one for what I paid for my Ed 30 DSG .... Why :
Tax
Petrol (had V6 4motion so knew roughly what to expect : on my route with my style of driving it would have been 20-22mpg as opposed to 28-30mpg)
4wd too good to enjoy - if that makes sense : on V6 4motion it was so good it almost makes the car boring
Image compared to GTi
Looks (don't like exhausts)
Smaller boot
Can't remap
I can understand everyone of those, except the exhaust look :shocked: Thats usually the one thing the GTI'ers want lol
....@Jules - I hate the R32 exhaust configuration - It's neither one thing nor the other. I even turned down (politely!) a free Milly for my GTI with that R32 pipe layout.
....@SO8 - I find 4WD a bit boring too. The trouble is that you have to drive in license losing territory to get the equivalent feedback fun and if a 4WD lets go, it happens BIG TIME !! Smaller height in boot space would also be a limitation for me sometimes. But I love the V6 exhaust music, especially on a Milly!
:afro:
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Its my favourite part of the car :grin:
If i got a gti i had intended to keep enough for R32 bumper and exhaust!
At least you had the option of being different though mate, would be boring if everyone got the R32 end :cool:
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Its my favourite part of the car :grin:
If i got a gti i had intended to keep enough for R32 bumper and exhaust!
At least you had the option of being different though mate, would be boring if everyone got the R32 end :cool:
....Yes, I much prefer the R32 rear bumper - The GTI oem one is like a Ford Ka!! :afro: :cool: :afro:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_rear_15Mar09.jpg)
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I opted for an ED30 over an R32 mainly due to 95% of the models being £400 tax a year and also general fuel consumption.
I think its important to put your car choice into your personal perspective. Everyone is different and require different things from their car.
For example - I use my ED30 to get to work and back which is just shy of a 40 mile round trip. Which IMO is not far enough to warrant an oil burner and yet far enough to make me forget about anything too thirsty.
When it comes down to it, it just depends on how much you are willing to fork out in running costs. To some people, its worth every penny.
100% exactly the same here. All down to the Tax and Fuel cost.
I also use my ED30 daily to commute to work - about 40 miles a day, so wanted somet that was a little cheaper to run, and the ED30 gets me through a week nicely with 1 tank of fuel.
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Had the choice of GTI/ED30/R32.
R32: I wasn't a big fan of the zorst sound being on all the time and people hearing you coming down the road before they saw you.
ED30: Was not a big fan of the interlagos cloth, started to get a headache after a few minutes. If the ED30 had a leather option then I would have probably gone for that bt the dealer informed me that it wasn't an option available.
GTI: Went for this option as the power was enough for me (previous car was a saxo diesel) and it came with leather as standard.
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The noise is far from on all the time :undecided: When in 6th driving round town (DSG) its practically silent!
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The noise is far from on all the time :undecided: When in 6th driving round town (DSG) its practically silent!
....Even with a Milltek Non-Resonated, on any of the GTI/Ed30/R32, the exhaust sound is very quiet and civilised at low revs round town etc. Particularly so in DSG D-mode but you can use your gears on a Manual box to keep it quiet too.
I'm afraid I don't understand any 'enthusiast' who doesn't love a bit of zorst music! Especially a V6............or V8..............or V12 !! Straight-6's too !
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ED30: Was not a big fan of the interlagos cloth, started to get a headache after a few minutes. If the ED30 had a leather option then I would have probably gone for that bt the dealer informed me that it wasn't an option available.
The ED30 is a half-leather setup anyways. These days I dont know how people can buy a full-leather car, gets dirty quickly and requires frequent attention to keep it looking its best. And then still its slippery as hell.
The ED30 half-leather setup reminds me of the Leather/Alcantara setup I have in my B7 A4 V6 TDi.
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I am the same as Ifti and Pazz in that I was in an S3 and was fed up paying more for tax and fuel.
I could have bought any car but after doing a lot of research I found that the ED30 had everything I was looking for in a car. Discreate but fast with more than enough room for passengers. I have loved every minute of ownership and really don't see any reason to look for another car at the moment.
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Went to the show room to get the gti. Salesman fire up the R32 (just to show me). I knew i had to have one.
Although the 4wd is often is said to take the fun away from driving I assure you turing off the esp made me think it was more fun than the Gti. Suprising how many people take one on a test drive and dont do this.
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lookoutsmudger , congrats on new arrival
what did the gti replace?
Cheers for that. The GTi replaced a Honda S2000.
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lookoutsmudger , congrats on new arrival
what did the gti replace?
Cheers for that. The GTi replaced a Honda S2000.
I had an S2000 before my Ed 30 ... infact I've had two S2000's - and loved them both ... but the GTi is a superb car and I don't regret my purchase at all ... :smiley:
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I agree, a fantastic car but hey needs must :sad: :smiley:
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I had this dilemma, was looking to get out of my cooper S, didnt care about the fact i had to make money u for negative equity.
Mate has a GTI and its awesome to drive, was sold on one untill he told me to look at the prices of the R32's, for the sake of the extra fuel (im a full tank a week) and 40 per month road tax (i put it away monthly) im happy.
ED30s are still holding their prices so the R seemed logical for me once i had test drove one and enjoyed it so much.
At the end of the day whether its a GTI, ED30 or R32 we own cars that we want everyone will have reasons for their choice.
Chris
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At the end of the day whether its a GTI, ED30 or R32 we own cars that we want everyone will have reasons for their choice.
Chris
....Absolutely spot on! If you can manage to do it, just do it! Life isn't a rehearsal.
:afro: :cool: :afro:
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I didn't really consider one because at the time i was buying unleaded was £1.20 ish and the road tax.
A month ago I heard a DSG R32 going up a slip road at full chat.... I've found my next car I reckon :evil:. If only the front didn't look like a Jetta :sad:
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If only the front didn't look like a Jetta :sad:
...There are lots of mods you can do to solve that. Modding is a slippery slope though! :evil:
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I had a modified Mk 4 R32 and was all set to sell it to get a Mk 5 R32. I decided on the spec, went in to order it and thought I'd just try an Ed30 to satisfy myself that I didn't want one. I'd never driven a turbo'd car before and I was blown away with the torque. I drove it back to back with a Mk 5 R32 and didn't feel that there was much difference in performance. I also considered the £400 tax and the fact that I could get so much more power out of an Ed30 for very little money, unlike the R32 for the same gains (I spent a fortune on my Mk 4).
Whenever I see a Mk 5 R32 I wish I'd got one, but the Ed30 is fun and a lot more nimble. I miss the sound and handling of the R32 but at least I've done the "R32 thing" once.
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came from a mk4 r32 and just wanted white and wanted the ed30 simple as that :evil: best car ever owned just love mine