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Title: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: paultownsend on 12 April 2009, 13:04
can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?

as above
got a bargain of a supersprint manifold for mk2 8v, but i have a tall block agg fitted. so it sits 16mm higher

im not too fond of battering the tunnel, so can the 2 rear mounts be safely chopped, butchered to lower the back of the block?

i found a guide on the mkvr6 forum, but the pics have all gone!
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: Dolly on 12 April 2009, 13:18
depends how much you need? i needed a very small amount on my G60 so fitted a slightly taller and solid front mount, just tilts the engine enough for the 4 branch to clear.
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: paultownsend on 12 April 2009, 13:40
i suppose i wont know until i get it fitted. had a solid mount in before and just didnt get on with it. il be welding a flexi into the manifold
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: Wayne on 12 April 2009, 15:30
You may get away without changing the mounts, try it and you may find it clears.
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: paultownsend on 12 April 2009, 15:44
to be honest, im using the std manifold with a 1cm spacer and its perfectwe shall see!

i do not want to wrap the manifold, so whats the best way to protect the steering uj boot?
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: MarkS on 12 April 2009, 15:50
Out of interest
Why do you not want to wrap the manifold?
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: paultownsend on 12 April 2009, 16:22
a, cant afford it
b, i cant be arsed  :smiley:
c, iv just heard mixed stories about them cracking when wrapped, holding moisture, mine is mild steel.

i also knew a guy in his mk1, got oil on the wrap, and had a nice bbq under his bonnet!

Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: MarkS on 12 April 2009, 17:10
Ahh fair enough!
You're meant to apply it wet anyway so I suppose doing that on non-stainless steel won't end well!
Also you're meant to spray the heat wrap with a protective spray to prevent damage (flames) etc :)
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: paultownsend on 12 April 2009, 17:17
if i were to do it, id want to do it properly. and it seems to cost a small fortune, with ties, wrap, and paint!  as much as i paid for the manifold!
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: danny_p on 12 April 2009, 17:39
dosent cost that much to wrap it,  i would allways wrap a tubular manifold.  ans would never have a stainless one ether.

if you blow a rod out the back  of the motor and get oil everywhere  yes it'll burn but it'll do that anyway  been there done that. 
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: paultownsend on 12 April 2009, 17:51
its mild steel so should be ok. is there any particular wrap thats better than others? 
iv just bought a fire extinguisher, so my worry is sorted  :grin:
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: MarkS on 12 April 2009, 18:16
http://www.driftworks.com/catalog/products/exhaust-heat-wrap.html

I bought that

And some tie wraps and paint from Tweeks!

Wrapped up my Stainless manifold today infact :)

Going to spray it tomorrow!
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: sidecarphil on 12 April 2009, 18:27
if you blow a rod out the back  of the motor and get oil everywhere  yes it'll burn but it'll do that anyway  been there done that. 

i've blown loads of CBR600RR motors in sidecars and never seen flames

rodded both sides and still no flames :)

loads of oil on the passinger (which makes holding on harder ) but never any flames even after reving over 16,000RPM for 10 laps of snetterton  :wink: :wink:

but i have wrapped my cars manifold cos of the increased heat and to protect the PAS rack
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: danny_p on 12 April 2009, 20:01
i've allways found mind steel exhaust to be better than stainless, yes they can and do rust  but not as fast as you'd think  but they much more resistant to cracking :) 

exhaust wrap is pritty much allt he same stuff,  stainless steel tie wraps are good for secureing it  did secure some with mig wire  but thatt falls off pritty quick.   

as for throwing rods and catching fire,   golfs like doing that basicly as the exhaust is still ultra hot ( glowing bright red style  ) where it runs down and that area also happens to be a perfect flame nest.  the grasstrack car is the same  allways catches fire when the engine blows.   but that poor red top is allways under more boost than you can wave a boost gadge at
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: nealey on 12 April 2009, 20:56
if you dont want to wrap the manifold but want to protect the steering boot and uj wrap the steering boot instead
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: rubjonny on 13 April 2009, 09:06
check with the manufacturer, some specifically recommend that you dont wrap them.
as for lowering the engine, it will prob be enough to drop the driver side a touch, a quick n easy way to do it is to use the mk2 8v style mount with the bolt thru the middle into a bracket bolted to the subframe. what you do is take the subframe mount off and flip it round, then drill a new hole lower down.  Not actually done this myself, but apparently it works fine :)
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 13 April 2009, 09:47
the proper way of doing it is ceramic coating but that costs just as much as buying the manifold!

whats this spray that protects the heat wrap?
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: MarkS on 13 April 2009, 10:18
the proper way of doing it is ceramic coating but that costs just as much as buying the manifold!

whats this spray that protects the heat wrap?

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=NIM12001

That's what I'm using :)
Title: Re: can the 2 rear engine mounts be modded to lower the block?
Post by: paultownsend on 13 April 2009, 10:28
think il suck it and see. just wrap the steering boot