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Title: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: lowmk1 on 10 April 2009, 12:08
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-GTI-16V-BLACK-MK2_W0QQitemZ220392435660QQihZ012QQcategoryZ9873QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-GTI-16V-BLACK-MK2_W0QQitemZ220392435660QQihZ012QQcategoryZ9873QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Just been looking at this, but im a bit confused. Did mk2s really come with a 2ltr? 190? to me its looks like a std mk2 valver, i mean if you did have somthing as special as it says would you honeslty advertise it on ebay? and not show the engine? paperwork?

opinions?

 :grin:
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Conker on 10 April 2009, 13:40
I think its a load of rubbish - I've never heard of a "standard" UK Mk2 with 2.0L - I think some the later US Mk2's might have a 2.0L engine though.

I've seen some Mk2's that have had a fettled GTI Engineering (a private aftermarket company) engine fitted soon after purchase, so maybe its had that (I doubt it).


I also like how theres a random pic of two spare doors, with no explanation. Presumably the existing doors are rotten.

Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: JC on 10 April 2009, 13:43
he says  brand new doors included due to rust on originals   :wink: but they look used to me  :laugh:
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Conker on 10 April 2009, 13:48
Quote from: chuff on 10 April 2009, 13:43
he says  brand new doors included due to rust on originals   :wink: but they look used to me  :laugh:


Ooops.  I couldn't see that amidst all the bullsh1t.
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: lowmk1 on 10 April 2009, 14:13
ha!

Yea such a 'RARE' car that needs new doors...very well looked after then!!

Just annoyin how people can put all this bullsh1t in an add and people will actuay pay over the odds for which is just a std 16v.
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Ant on 10 April 2009, 14:36
The vehicle details for H101 RET are:
Date of Liability01 07 2009
Date of First Registration01 05 1991
Year of Manufacture1991
Cylinder Capacity (cc)1994CC
CO2 EmissionsNot Available
Fuel TypePetrol
Vehicle StatusSORN Not Due
Vehicle ColourBLACK

Well it's registered with a 1994CC engine, but that could have been done later.
Confused with the SORN not due, so does that mean it's currently SORN? He doesn't mention and MOT/TAX.
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: dan_apps on 10 April 2009, 14:49
heap
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: JC on 10 April 2009, 14:57
you'd know  :grin:
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: dan_apps on 10 April 2009, 15:01
Quote from: chuff on 10 April 2009, 14:57
you'd know  :grin:

yeah ive seen a few about :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: MrBounce on 10 April 2009, 15:04
Hmmm no pics of the engine bay then...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Wayne on 10 April 2009, 20:26
I would think that someone has fitted a 2.0 later.
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 April 2009, 20:47
The GTI Engineering steering wheel gives you the hint that it might not be factory spec.

If it were VAG 2.0 then it would be 1984cc, surely anyhoo.

Headlamp washers 'n' everything, although probably a *little* bit poxy, if it needs new doors...
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: CHRIS_MC on 10 April 2009, 20:55
looks ragged to death, shame
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Martz on 10 April 2009, 23:44
Could it be a rare Ottenger?
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: twistedblack69 on 11 April 2009, 00:08
Quote from: Ant on 10 April 2009, 14:36
Well it's registered with a 1994CC engine, but that could have been done later.
Confused with the SORN not due, so does that mean it's currently SORN? He doesn't mention and MOT/TAX.

He does say no MOT and tax in an additional bit now lol, so yea I'm assuming it is currently SORN
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Thom89 on 11 April 2009, 01:58
I think this car is the real deal, GTI Engineering did do some pre registered conversions, and I'm fairly sure in saying that these engines were covered by the VW warranty they were that good, if it is a GTI Engineering car, then I would be very interested in finding out more about it, serious brownie points! http://forum.performancevwmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=45195&sid=9d2648be017fb30a2cc409d6389ef14a
Tom
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Mr Blue on 11 April 2009, 02:52
I emailed the guy soon after he had the add up  :wink:

I asked him if it had the 'gti engineering' plaque on the slam pannel. I also told him its not factory then is it!  :grin:

His reply..

''yes it has pal but it was done by gilders motorsport they were the only company that got 190bhp out of a 2L and only ever did 7 of them''

Ok so if it is true...Wouldnt you want to take a money shot pic of the engine? This is what I dont get so bullsh1t comes to mind.
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: danny_p on 12 April 2009, 13:05
if they were on a power quest and only got 190 bhp  gliders motorsport arn't very good.    really it's nothign spectial at all,   a 16v with a 2.0 conversion  may have had some headwork done  ( or some added bullsh!t ) and some posh bit's of trim but if the doors have gone the rest is gonna be poor
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: nealey on 12 April 2009, 22:48
Quote from: Ant on 10 April 2009, 14:36
The vehicle details for H101 RET are:
Date of Liability01 07 2009
Date of First Registration01 05 1991
Year of Manufacture1991
Cylinder Capacity (cc)1994CC
CO2 EmissionsNot Available
Fuel TypePetrol
Vehicle StatusSORN Not Due
Vehicle ColourBLACK

Well it's registered with a 1994CC engine, but that could have been done later.
Confused with the SORN not due, so does that mean it's currently SORN? He doesn't mention and MOT/TAX.

Thats the plate on the front, what about H263 RVV thats fitted to the back?
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Ant on 12 April 2009, 23:14
Quote from: nealey on 12 April 2009, 22:48
Thats the plate on the front, what about H263 RVV thats fitted to the back?

Well spotted, Just gets dodgier by the minute.
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: danny_p on 13 April 2009, 17:46
obviously it's a cut and shut  :drool:
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Mr Blue on 14 April 2009, 18:18
If i win it then im breaking it anyway :grin:
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Thom89 on 14 April 2009, 18:29
I emailed the guy about the registration plate difference,  he says that he fitted a second hand tailgate, pic was taken before he got a chance to change the plate over.....
Tom
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: madmanmavis on 14 April 2009, 19:23
Thats a very very dodgy ebay listing

firstly if you were selling your pride and joy especially something so 'rare' you'd use more than 3/4 lines.

Then non matching number plates, failing to mention lack of MOT etc looks like a hammered chav mobile

Pity really
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: Thom89 on 14 April 2009, 19:55
I have spoken to the guy via email, believe me when I tell you that he's not the sharpest tool in the box! but that aside, I do think that that car is a bit of a rarity.. black paint, Speedline wheels?? if not, they do look of the era, headlamp washers, and the GTI Engineering steering wheel, plus, what he says IS under the bonnet... who knows :undecided: :undecided:
We could do with someone. that lives in that neck of the woods, to go and give it a quick reccy :wink: :wink:
Tom
Title: Re: MK2 on the bay - factory tuned? 2ltr? 190bhp? hmmm
Post by: caddy vantastic on 15 April 2009, 16:00
H101 RET on vw dialog database is listed as a KR. H263 RVV is not on the system at all