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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Trickyboy on 09 April 2009, 14:07

Title: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Trickyboy on 09 April 2009, 14:07
Just discovered that as of September may have a new job which could require a 80 mile round commute every day for about 6 months, seriously considering the GT 170 now, obviously would prefer a gti but cab't afford to throw $$$ down the drain! Any idea how much money i'd save with a derv?
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: andytran on 09 April 2009, 14:13
All I can say is that if you are on a steady run, driving within legal limits, the GTi is surprisingly economical.

A couple of weeks ago, I drove Peterhead to Edinburgh (approx 150mls). Sitting at around 70 on the dual carrigeway and I got an average of 38mpg.

Superb for a 200bhp turbo charged car I think!

My previous BMW 120D M Sport only did 41mpg on exact same journey.

Regards

Andy
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Caz on 09 April 2009, 14:15
HAHAH! turning to the dark side!  :grin:
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: ifti on 09 April 2009, 14:53
I really dont think the GT 170 will really make enough of a saving TBH. Stick with the GTI, or you'll regret it later on!!

As stated above, the GTI is pretty economical. I get around 30-35mpg whenever I drive sensibly, and have hit just under 38mpg before as well!
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Trickyboy on 09 April 2009, 14:57
Really, 80 miles a day, 400 miles a week, im pretty sure in 6 months there'll be some pretty huge savings! Need some realisitic mpg figures from a derv owner really!
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: ifti on 09 April 2009, 15:54
I do 300 miles a week in mine. With 400 miles a week you're probably looking at around £60-70 a week on fuel.......
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Edition30 on 09 April 2009, 16:33
The guy getting 30+ on a steady run from a GTI and only 41 from a derv...I think not.

My dad has a 140hp Passat and he sees really good figures, taking it real easy and staying within the speed limits, getting around 600-700 miles per tank.

Get that from a GTI and I will lick your ring peice.
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Caz on 09 April 2009, 16:37
i get about 45mpg, average...
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: smartypants on 09 April 2009, 16:43
Remember DERV is 10p more a litre than standard 95RON, and 5p more than 98-99RON

Unless the diesel car was getting into the high 40s to 50s in MPG, I doubt you'll see big enough returns. But tax will be cheaper. Do the maths, all of it, work it out to a monthly figure, including the cost of buying the car in the first place
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: dan_apps on 09 April 2009, 18:47
do you not get mileage reinbursement from your work if its business miles? what does your contract say about working from a different location?

speak to Rhyso in the mk4 section on savings etc on derv, i will say that the gt 170 is about 50 - 55mpg iirc, but its noisy and the interior is not much to look at in comparrison.

this is exactly what i used my gti for when travelling around all of wales, i was glad i didnt go for a diesel tbh,  and notched up 35,000 miles doing it for the last year.

:smiley:
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: andytran on 09 April 2009, 18:55
The guy getting 30+ on a steady run from a GTI and only 41 from a derv...I think not.

My dad has a 140hp Passat and he sees really good figures, taking it real easy and staying within the speed limits, getting around 600-700 miles per tank.

Get that from a GTI and I will lick your ring peice.

Oh, sorry, I didnt realise that upon owning both cars and driving the same journey in both at similar speeds, I would have no idea of the MPG I achieved.

Thank you so much for informing me of the fact that the mileage I got was wrong, what would I do without you?
God, there are some idiots about....
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: andytran on 09 April 2009, 19:01

The guy getting 30+ on a steady run from a GTI and only 41 from a derv...I think not.

My dad has a 140hp Passat and he sees really good figures, taking it real easy and staying within the speed limits, getting around 600-700 miles per tank.

Get that from a GTI and I will lick your ring peice.

Oh, sorry, I didnt realise that upon owning both cars and driving the same journey in both at similar speeds, I would have no idea of the MPG I achieved.

Thank you so much for informing me of the fact that the mileage I got was wrong, what would I do without you?

If you are able to read, you will see that I was comparing a 120D M Sport to the GTI, not daddys Passat.

You may not be aware, but they have different engines apparently....... :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: ub7rm on 09 April 2009, 19:05
38 on a steady run is certainly doable on a long journey in a GTI.  I've even seen 40 but that was on a pretty poor road where 50 was the top speed.
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: R32UK on 09 April 2009, 19:36
you will see 45mpg average on the 2.0tdi. 140. Thats from a guy who does 40k a year usually over 80 on the motorways.

Not sure about the gti but even the r32 will give you 32mpg if you stick to 70... easier said than done :grin:

I just found with the derv that you will always wait for the kick of the turbo... bringing down consumtion quite a bit. If you happpy to bounce along like a granny then high 50's is very possible. Again alot of it boils down to driving style :nerd:
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Hurdy on 09 April 2009, 20:08
The 140pd and 170dpf versions of the Golf aren't all that frugal. People have been on here and other forums saying that in day to day driving they are struggling to get into the late 40's with fuel consumption.. I've had 2 TDI140's and could just about get a 50mpg average if I was on the motorway doing 65-75 and being economical when accelleration.

Compare that to about 35mpg if you are steady with a GTI and you are talking a saving of 15mpg with the diesel. That is a 40% saving on fuel, but remember that diesel is around 12% more than petrol at the moment (if you buy 95ron). so you would still be saving around 30% on you fuel.

Weigh into the equation that a GTI is 100% more fun and you'll be on to a 70% loss overall :grin: :grin: :grin:

Seriously though, if you do 400 miles a week you will be saving the equivalent of 120miles of fuel a week which is around £15. Multiply that bu 48 (working weeks) and you get an overall saving of about £700 a year on fuel.

The real question is will you have that pang that says "I wish I'd bought one of those" when you're sat in your diseasel and a GTI drives past :wink: and is it worth £700 a tear to do it?
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Trickyboy on 09 April 2009, 20:18
Thanks for the advice guys, informative and useful as ever! Seems that the 170dpf is not quite as economical as i was hoping really, and considering that if i had a gti she's be full of nothing but 99ron then it's just gotta be a gti. BUT WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY ALL HIDING!!!  :angry:
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Edition30 on 11 April 2009, 01:14
Im the idiot?

dont you know how to edit a post??

Cant see how you got only 3 miles or whatever better consumption from a 160 odd hp derv than a 200hp petrol.

Just adding my 2p worth dont need to get all defensive.

And if you can read I wasnt comparing 'daddys' Passat to your GTI I was simply giving the figures from the 140 engine to give the OP and idea of what they can expect.
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: andytran on 11 April 2009, 09:48
Im the idiot?

dont you know how to edit a post??

Cant see how you got only 3 miles or whatever better consumption from a 160 odd hp derv than a 200hp petrol.

Just adding my 2p worth dont need to get all defensive.

And if you can read I wasnt comparing 'daddys' Passat to your GTI I was simply giving the figures from the 140 engine to give the OP and idea of what they can expect.


 :tongue:
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: celica on 11 April 2009, 11:15
it's some mileage there

i know the gti is more than capable of it, but for 6 months, why not get an old diesel runner - one which would see your 400miles+ from a tank

save the money and see what your money gets you in 6 months, as i think the mk5 will drop in value at the end of the year with the mk6
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Rhyso on 11 April 2009, 11:26
MKIV 130 TDI FTW

 :tongue:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1274.jpg)

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 11 April 2009, 13:34
Won't the oil burner need more servicing as well ?.Me i've never had an oil burner & never would.
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: smartypants on 11 April 2009, 15:44
38 on a steady run is certainly doable on a long journey in a GTI.  I've even seen 40 but that was on a pretty poor road where 50 was the top speed.

Just driven from Leeds to North Essex, 200 odd miles, average speed of 63mph and a reading of 38.3mpg. And gave it some beans on the dual carriage way the final 7-8  miles :D

I am very very impressed with the ease of the GTi engine and its economy that you can get from it without being tedious in your driving. Obviously my run was near perfect, I dont think I braked until the last 7-8 miles - but I think 40mpg is achievable, and the quoted 35mpg easily achievable without trying too hard
Title: Re: Maybe a change of plan...
Post by: Hurdy on 11 April 2009, 21:37
MKIV 130 TDI FTW

 :tongue:

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/Rhyso/IMG_1274.jpg)

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:



Ahhh, brings back memories :smiley: