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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Shady Pioneer on 08 April 2009, 11:38
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This is a serious question and not a jab at any of you. I would really like a MK5 GTI in Candy White, I've got what I want it to look like planned, insurance for me even now is a bargain, but the price of the car is too much atm. It's averaging out about £15K for what I'm after.
Obviously with the release of the MK6 GTI they should start to decline but how long before a decent descent is in order do you think? I was planning on keeping onto the MK3 for as long as possible (most likely a few years to keep insurance and costs down to save for the MK5).
Maybe worth waiting on the MK7 to be released too?
Cheers guys.
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It's averaging out about £15K for what I'm after.
£15k!!!??? Is that an ED30 I presume? I've seen MK5 Candy's around for less than that. I bought my 07 ED30 for less than that and its spec'd well (xennons/highline/MFSW/cruise).
The MK5 has been very popular - most of the more mundane model's (non-GTI) will get the grunt of the MK6 impact price-wise. And when the MK6 GTi comes out, it (even after its good media attention) will still struggle to pick up any big sales figures for the first 12 months in this climate.
The used car market at the minute has never been so strong. Dealer's are fully aware of this and are tending to not budge with their forecourt prices (especially on the nearly new stuff). So to get a good deal look at private sales.
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Cheers for the input chap.
Yeah I wouldn't want anything else other than ED30 tbh, and I'd like it specced quite high, as that will be my car for a good long time (5+ years). It seems the Candy White ones go for more than most other colours. Similar specced ED30s are around £3K cheaper.
I'm not really to fussed on what plate it's on, as long as it's what I want from above, obviously the newer it is the more expensive.
I'm not in the market right now as I just can't afford it. But will defo be there soon enough, I'm estimating 2011 (I know it seems a way off but gotta plan these things lol!).
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Give it a year and the MKV's residuals will start to slip.
MKV GTI prices have recently GONE UP for the last two months due to the lack of the MKVI and the MKV being out of production. :smiley:
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Most cars have stopped or gone up
The R32 has gone up £500 :grin:
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Most cars have stopped or gone up
The R32 has gone up £500 :grin:
so its actually worth £500 now? :tongue:
by the time you want a MKV Shady i would expect ED30 prices to be hovering about the 10K, possibly lower; all depends on how the economy goes over the next couple of years
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I was thinking they'd be about 10K too. Hopefully that is the case. I don't want a MK4 unless I had the R32 but that's just silly money on insurance, I'd be more than happy with a MK5 GTI ED30 :) I've seen so many nice ones about in white.
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There maybe a silver one for sale around that time :wink: if I do decide to sell her on.
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It seems the Candy White ones go for more than most other colours.
:afro: best colour to have mate! it seems they have become flavour of the month again thats all, i had a pile of interest in mine and i only advertised it on this site :shocked: gone now but not forgotten :cry:
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The Candy White one is my choice, I've always thought it looked the best from all the colours. I'd only settle for something else if it was really worth it ;)
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I'm pretty sure in 1970 they thought the same about poo brown :)
I love Candy white, think it looks great on a lot of cars, but would be afraid that its a fashion fad and won't age well. But cars and their colours are personal choices, so doesnt really matter!
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I'm pretty sure in 1970 they thought the same about poo brown :)
I love Candy white, think it looks great on a lot of cars, but would be afraid that its a fashion fad and won't age well. But cars and their colours are personal choices, so doesnt really matter!
...........don't think so mate.Have you seen a mk1 or mk2 GTI in white ? :cool:.They still look great even today.
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I'm pretty sure in 1970 they thought the same about poo brown :)
I love Candy white, think it looks great on a lot of cars, but would be afraid that its a fashion fad and won't age well. But cars and their colours are personal choices, so doesnt really matter!
...........don't think so mate.Have you seen a mk1 or mk2 GTI in white ? :cool:.They still look great even today.
check out this guy's project thread for a great example of a white MK2
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=60184.0
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I'm pretty sure in 1970 they thought the same about poo brown :)
I love Candy white, think it looks great on a lot of cars, but would be afraid that its a fashion fad and won't age well. But cars and their colours are personal choices, so doesnt really matter!
...........don't think so mate.Have you seen a mk1 or mk2 GTI in white ? :cool:.They still look great even today.
I take it back! Perhaps in certain cars they are timeless. But will the MK5 be a classic in the sense that the MK1 and MK2 are today?
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I'm pretty sure in 1970 they thought the same about poo brown :)
I love Candy white, think it looks great on a lot of cars, but would be afraid that its a fashion fad and won't age well. But cars and their colours are personal choices, so doesnt really matter!
...........don't think so mate.Have you seen a mk1 or mk2 GTI in white ? :cool:.They still look great even today.
I take it back! Perhaps in certain cars they are timeless. But will the MK5 be a classic in the sense that the MK1 and MK2 are today?
In my eyes, yes :D
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Had a REALLY interesting conversation with a dealer yesterday (;) ) - talking about mk5 residuals etc....
He was saying that the mk5 gtis are selling in most cases before they've even entered the dealership :laugh:
This is what's putting the prices up at the moment. So if you want a GTI, you've got to move frighteningly quick.
Asking about the mk6 gti, he said that SO much depends on how good it is, as its got a lot to live up to. The issue of the mk7 is NOT going to get people thinking about skipping the mk6 - it's too far off.
However, his grounding comment was that if you get into the habit of waiting for the next best thing, you'll never have anything!! LOL!! :grin:
With the mk6 coming out very soon, the mk7 won't be out I(gti-wise) for at least 3 years.
In which time, most people will have moved on to a new car within that time frame anyway.
:)
DAn (much more positive after his conversation with a VW dealer ;) )
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I was told yesterday when I went into my local stealers that we wont be seeing the MK6 GTi until next year. Seems a little too far away to me?
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Had a REALLY interesting conversation with a dealer yesterday (;) ) - talking about mk5 residuals etc....
He was saying that the mk5 gtis are selling in most cases before they've even entered the dealership :laugh:
This is what's putting the prices up at the moment. So if you want a GTI, you've got to move frighteningly quick....
I've only just joined this forum so trying to get used to everything on here!! I can confirm exactly what you've said. I've been trying to get hold of a GTI for ages, only just managed to secure one that had only just arrived in the dealership. Was in there less than 24 hours and hadn't even gone through any checks etc. So yes, hard to get hold of! Just waiting painfully for DVLA to sort out the transfer from the private plate before it can be taxed for me to collect :-(
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Well, welcome Ryan :)
FWIW, you're one step ahead of me!! :grin:
I'm getting to the point where I can't remember how many cars I've missed out on!!
Still, you gotta larf :grin:
Dan
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Cheers Dan,
I'm sure I'll be scouring this site for lots of expensive additions to the GTI!
Definitely gotta laugh ... just when you think you've got one, the good old DVLA try to stop you from having it lol
You still looking for a GTI then?
Ryan
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There's some great info on this site tbh so "dive in" :)
Might know more about a couple of cars tomorrow - won't hold my breath though!!!LOL! :grin:
Start up a thread with some pics/details of your new purchase!!
DAn
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Yeah, definitely some great stuff on here, spent hours already trawling through!! Best of luck with the search, update me on what you find!!
I'll get a thread started once I've got the car ... hopefully before Christmas if I'm lucky!
Ryan
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well i can say i've grabbed myself a mk5 GTI and i'm not disappointed yet...not too specc'd but i wanted something to tweak anyway...
Shady have a look at some of the older 05/06 plates and you'll get under 13k from a dealership with ease...i did and i got a cracking px on my CTR :wink:
The dealerships were difficult to get hold of the GTI's though and i travelled to the car as they couldn't get across to their partner dealership as people were already wanting to view.
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yes dtea would agree with you on the 05/06 plate prices/bargains just bought 06 plate silver 3 door gti 39k lovely condition etc full dealer history 1 owner etc £10,400 bargain if i do say so myself lol had it 8 weeks and loving it miles ahead of my ctr :smiley:
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Loving every single minute of my GTI - done nearly 1000 miles in just over a week of ownership and its a joy! Got an absolute bargain that makes me smile even more seeing how tough it seems to get hold of one now.
I have seen more bargains falling on to Autotrader though... definitely a few about if you look hard enough!
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hello mk5 peeps
I saw a mint white GTi today, I was telling my misses that i'd love one long time
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yes dtea would agree with you on the 05/06 plate prices/bargains just bought 06 plate silver 3 door gti 39k lovely condition etc full dealer history 1 owner etc £10,400 bargain if i do say so myself lol had it 8 weeks and loving it miles ahead of my ctr :smiley:
Good price for a lot of car ahead of the CTR. Don't they just feel more solid?? :cool:
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After thinking about it, it makes much more sense for me to go for a normal GTI instead of an ED30, I don't need one anyway lol! Looking at 2005/2006 GTIs, prices around £9K on Autotrader with some good specs as well! Mileage are random but most I looked at are about 30 - 40K.
Looks like I'll be going for a normal one then, now to decide on which colour, most likely black.
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good lad shady pioneers you wont be disapointed mate and yes dtea gti so much better than my ctr in every way i hated the whining vtec and having to nail the back out of it to have any fun but in the gti its go go go from 2000rpm onwards in almost any gear, cant wait to go revo or bluefin now just need a few more coins first though lol :laugh:
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shady if you can get a dsg box...and go for leather if you see it...the bolster on the mk5 i reckon will be worn by around 70,000 as they are such a snug fit, my father-in-law to be can only just sit comfortably :grin:
Save some pennies for the BBS, chip, coilovers, and paint the sill's etc and what are you missing from the ED30 :smiley:
And if you do let us know what you get :smiley:
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what are your thoughts on higher mileage say when they are 70,80,90k etc.
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It won't be for a couple of years yet :grin: but when I do, it'll be special :D cheers dTEA :)
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IMHO, if they've got FSH, then I've got no issues.
I bought my Audi with 83K on it.
As long as the price reflects this, then you're laughing really. Just bear in mind that there would be wear and tear items to cautious of.
I looked at a FANTASTIC 3dr Candy White with DSG, 18" and fully loaded (sat nav etc) - had 70K on the clock with FSH (vw) all for £10K.
It was on Pistonheads for a while, but by the time I'd made my mind up on it, it had gone!!
Dan :)
what are your thoughts on higher mileage say when they are 70,80,90k etc.
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yes higher mileage isnt really a thing to be put off by as long as it has had the money spent on maintaining the car properly infact you would be better off buying a car with 65-70k on it rather than one with 50k on it because atleast the higher one should have had its major expensive service with cambelt etc and bearing in mind you could still haggle the price down and save again on the price of the higher mileage ones
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yeh, FWIW, I always try to look at cars that have just had the big services done. You can then factor out that by the time you p/ex, the car may need the next big service.
DAn :)
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One thing to be careful of in cars around the 60-80k bracket is a lot on non service related items are coming to the end of their lives too. Silly but annoying things like clips breaking, hoses coming loose, 02 sensors, maf sensors, coil packs (if they havent gone already) and just generally you're getting into a time when the things that break are maybe not common issues but unique to your car - if that makes any sense. But by 80k most of these things are probably sorted and you're good for another 60k without too much hassle.
Thats been my experience and others I know as well. So around that mileage expect some grief even if has an immaculate service history.