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Title: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 06 April 2009, 21:02
Hey I fitted my coilovers on Sunday, all is good except one worrying thing. When I turn there is a sort of clunk from what I can guess  is from the top mount area.

There is a small gap where the top mount plate is not sitting as it was when standards were on, normal? The top mounts turn slightly when I turn.

Have I done something wrong? I have a very long journey in the morning and am worrying.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: CraigDavid on 06 April 2009, 21:31
Its Nothing Major To Worry About, I Had The Same Problem When I Fitted My Coilovers!!

I Assume The Noise Is Produced When The Front Wheels Are Rotated Slightly Or To Full Lock, Stationery Or In Motion?? – This Is Due To The Front Top Mounts Not Being Fitted Properly And The Coilover Is ‘Popping’ Out Of It Holding!!

Simple Flip The 2[Two] Rubber Top Mounts Over [Picture Below] And Re-Install And The Problem Should Be Fixed!!

(http://images47.fotki.com/v1463/photos/7/783241/2882811/VWTopMountMk3-vi.jpg)
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 06 April 2009, 21:43
Spot on, will try this.

It is when it is stationary and at low-low speeds. Need to do this before I head off in the morning.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 06 April 2009, 23:03
That is not mk3 top mounts and they will only go in 1 way so cannot see how you can turn them over.

Did you use new top mounts when you fitted the coilovers.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 06 April 2009, 23:06
Replaced with vr top mounts.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 06 April 2009, 23:08
Replaced with vr top mounts.

Well they only fit one way, your clonk could be normal due to the spring moving, I am not far away from you if it helps your welcome to pop over and I could have a look and listen.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 06 April 2009, 23:15
I'm off up north in the morning. Going to get the top mounts off and see for any wear but if it dosn't stop could u have a look for a few beer tokens?

Anything i should do? Is it normal for the top
Plate to sit high? 
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 06 April 2009, 23:18
I'm off up north in the morning. Going to get the top mounts off and see for any wear but if it dosn't stop could u have a look for a few beer tokens?

Anything i should do? Is it normal for the top
Plate to sit high? 

This was my top plate with new vr top mounts, yes happy to look at it, just drop me a pm and I am sure we could sort something.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/2008_0603mounts0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 06 April 2009, 23:30
will do cheers.

How much thread should there be on the top bolt? I have nothing both sides.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 06 April 2009, 23:34
My top plates look like wayned's picture, as do VRDans, not to that extent I think but there's a slight gap, I haven't ever worried about it but then again, I've never had any knocking since changing the top mounts to VR ones.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Khare on 06 April 2009, 23:42
my top plates are liek wayned ones aswell.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 06 April 2009, 23:48
I did ask the question on here and on ed38 about the gap and was told it is normal with coilovers, went straight through the mot no issues, car is still running the same gap now and has been like it for over a year so I think it is ok and nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 06 April 2009, 23:52
Is it also normal for the top plate to move when you turn? Also the nut only just goes on with a mm or half a mm or thread on top.


Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 06 April 2009, 23:57
Is it also normal for the top plate to move when you turn? Also the nut only just goes on with a mm or half a mm or thread on top.




No the top plate should not move, I think you may have put them together wrong.

If you check out this thread you will see the guide I did: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=68845.0 if you look at the picture of mine before I fitted you will see how I put it together.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 06 April 2009, 23:58
Just remember I have this pic of one of my top plates:


(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1307/photo0230.jpg)


See what I mean about the gap, I'll check tomorrow to see if I have my plate move when turning it for you. Doesn't sound right mind you  :huh:
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: 6sr on 07 April 2009, 13:04
Are the VR6 mounts different to the early & late model GTI ones? Its just I've got both of these.

Thanks
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: 6sr on 07 April 2009, 13:12
Just to confirm if it is specifically the VR6 one thats needed, would it be:

Part number 45737 - STRUT TOP MOUNTING   G3 VR6 1/92 >12/97    Thats required?
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 07 April 2009, 13:50
Just to confirm if it is specifically the VR6 one thats needed, would it be:

Part number 45737 - STRUT TOP MOUNTING   G3 VR6 1/92 >12/97    Thats required?


I used and can recommend these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK3-GTI-VR6-CORRADO-SHOCK-TOP-MOUNT-KITS-C358_W0QQitemZ190297475021QQihZ009QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 07 April 2009, 13:56
Just to confirm if it is specifically the VR6 one thats needed, would it be:

Part number 45737 - STRUT TOP MOUNTING   G3 VR6 1/92 >12/97    Thats required?


I used and can recommend these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK3-GTI-VR6-CORRADO-SHOCK-TOP-MOUNT-KITS-C358_W0QQitemZ190297475021QQihZ009QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

I got those based on wayned's recommendation and had no problems since the being on in Jan. :)
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: 6sr on 07 April 2009, 14:03
Thanks. I presume these are different to both the early and late model GTI versions?
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: zoomered on 07 April 2009, 18:59
I had a knocking noise after fitting my coilies. Fitted these same ones on sat. Spot on.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: 6sr on 07 April 2009, 19:50
Cool. Got a set ordered  :smiley:
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 11 April 2009, 01:25
Can someone please tell me the order that the fronts go on? top plate, nut, top mount, then bearing. Do you have to put the first nut on top of the bearing then the top mount, top plate then nut.

you get me?
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 11 April 2009, 10:05
Can someone please tell me the order that the fronts go on? top plate, nut, top mount, then bearing. Do you have to put the first nut on top of the bearing then the top mount, top plate then nut.

you get me?

I fitted mine as per photo, then put the top mount on and placed into the car then fitted the top plate and nut.


(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/2.jpg)
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 11 April 2009, 10:59
Rite I know what I have done wrong. I put the nut ontop of the strut then the bearing. Opps. Do you think I have done any damage?

thanks wayned,

Off to attack it now, thank god for the Snap On impact gun  :smiley:
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 11 April 2009, 11:38
Rite I know what I have done wrong. I put the nut ontop of the strut then the bearing. Opps. Do you think I have done any damage?

thanks wayned,

Off to attack it now, thank god for the Snap On impact gun  :smiley:

This was the issue I had, I tried it that way but could not see it working as the hole in the spring top plate was nearly as big as the nut.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/01.jpg)
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 11 April 2009, 15:15
hoGood, sorted that problem but now I have a major problem. Far to much camber, how do you do that?
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 11 April 2009, 16:53
hoGood, sorted that problem but now I have a major problem. Far to much camber, how do you do that?

Camber is adjusted by loosening the two lower strut bolts and moving the strut in or out.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: 6sr on 11 April 2009, 18:05
Still waiting for mine to arrive, probably held up because of easter  :sad:

Does anyone have any pointers on the height adjustment? As in how many turns to get a particular height.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Retro_look on 11 April 2009, 20:59
ive fitted mine in this order ??
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/rstommyk67/090410_181757.jpg)

my top hat doesnt doesnt stick out like the wayneds, it sits flush like when it was when it had normal struts on it, and ive fitted new top mounts

didnt notice any knocks or funny noises, my nut was quite abit bigger than the one in the guide though aswell, reckon i need to swap the nut and washer thing round??
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 11 April 2009, 21:01
Looks like they have changed the design of the top plate and nut.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Retro_look on 11 April 2009, 21:18
ah they might have done, got mine from hot tunning last week

if you look at the washer it even has a small cut out for the nut to sit in, if the washer went on first then surely the nut would rub in and around the top mount area ??


(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c400/rstommyk67/090410_182006-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Adam on 11 April 2009, 21:27
I fitted it like Wayned, worked no more creaking, seams to fit better. Thank you so much Wayned.

Retro_look,

That is the way I fitted it, do you have much thread on the top? You need to fit as per Wayned.

Ohh, and just eaten through my side wall! Camber was far to much.

Another Toyo Proxy on order!

Also I noticed a ARB link has gone missing?! Still got the nipple though.

Adam,
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Retro_look on 11 April 2009, 21:37
no my threads are flush, il have a play around with them tomorrow, 8v i had the same prob with the camber 2day untill i worked it out  :smiley:
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Wayne on 11 April 2009, 22:02
I fitted it like Wayned, worked no more creaking, seams to fit better. Thank you so much Wayned.

Retro_look,

That is the way I fitted it, do you have much thread on the top? You need to fit as per Wayned.

Ohh, and just eaten through my side wall! Camber was far to much.

Another Toyo Proxy on order!

Also I noticed a ARB link has gone missing?! Still got the nipple though.

Adam,

No worries, always happy to help.
Title: Re: Just fitted Coilovers
Post by: Retro_look on 12 April 2009, 20:46
i refitted mine 2day as per wayned, swap my nylon washer thing with the top nut, its all good, i now have spare tread sticking out, car drives nice aswell  :wink: