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Title: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: shep-mk2 on 03 April 2009, 19:54
Hello all, My name is Chris and I have recently purchased my first VW, a 1990 MK2 GTI 8V.

The aim is to restore it back to it's original condition as far as possible and already i've run into a problem!

Before I ask the question, I have treid searching through the posts but clearly no-one is quite as daft as me here!!!!!!

I have purchased a set of BBS RM's (15") and started to fit them, the front went well but as soon as I tried to fit one to the back I realised that the wheel didn't fit over the wheel hub properly!  ahhhhh!

Are the front wheel hubs a different size to the rear?  The previous owner did say that he had fitted mk3 claipers at the back but he didn't mention anything else.  Or are the wheels ever so slightly different?

All really stupid questions, just need someone with the know-how to dig me out of the preverbial!   :embarassed:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: xAx on 03 April 2009, 20:15
the hubs should be the same, calipers wouldn't make a difference as they bolt up to the same carriers.

are you saying it wont go over the spigot?
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: Mr Blue on 03 April 2009, 21:08
Possibly a spigot ring stuck in the wheel?

MK3 calipers on the rear are a common mod.
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: xAx on 03 April 2009, 21:33
Quote from: Mr Blue on 03 April 2009, 21:08
Possibly a spigot ring stuck in the wheel?

MK3 calipers on the rear are a common mod.

It's all about mk4's  :cool:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: MarkS on 03 April 2009, 22:03
Quote from: xAx on 03 April 2009, 21:33
Quote from: Mr Blue on 03 April 2009, 21:08
Possibly a spigot ring stuck in the wheel?

MK3 calipers on the rear are a common mod.

It's all about mk4's TT calipers  :cool:

:)
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: shep-mk2 on 03 April 2009, 22:39
Yeah, as I go to locate the wheel, it appears that the hub locator is slightly too big for the centre of the alloy, it couldn't be the arrangement of the wheels could it? (2 desgined for front and 2 designed for back).

They came off a mk2 so I would expect them to fly on.  The offgoing wheels are ridiculous aftermarket 17" TSW venoms, would they have modified the rear hubs to suit them?

Will double-check the spigot ring theory but i'm pretty sure that they are clear.  I really appreciate the help guys, my wife is going to cut my mummy/daddy button off if I don't get this investment to work!!!!!!!! :shocked:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: maplesyrup on 03 April 2009, 23:49
This seems a little odd as they should fit, but its worth knowing that you can have the center bores machined out for a small amount of cash.

 :sad:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: Wayne on 03 April 2009, 23:59
Has the spiggot ring from the TSW's stuck to the hub, try and post a pic if you can.

They are 100% the same front and back it is all I can think of.
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: Benrevs on 04 April 2009, 00:32
I had this problem with some Borbet A's I fitted recently. Was the same on my mates mk3. I ran down the hill with a round file through the middle. :grin: ... no honestly!
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: Mr Blue on 04 April 2009, 00:38
if they dont fit then they are the wrong RM's

ill take them. pm me
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: gstar-dubworld on 04 April 2009, 03:03
Quote from: Mr Blue on 04 April 2009, 00:38
if they dont fit then they are the wrong RM's

ill take them. pm me

Mr.Blue a classic comment me old fruit, love it :laugh:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: Wayne on 04 April 2009, 09:31
Don't modify the wheels without making sure that the spiggot ring from the TSW's has been removed from the hub, I think you will find it is stuck on there.

The wheels should fit straight on without making the center bore bigger.
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: JC on 04 April 2009, 10:02
try the front wheels on the back  :grin:

get piccies up of the hubs and the wheels :afro:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: shep-mk2 on 04 April 2009, 10:34
Thanks guys, and you Mr Blue!  God loves a trier!!!!!!!!

About to go back outside and remove the wheels again, will take pics and post as soon as.

Many thanks again..... :smiley:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: shep-mk2 on 04 April 2009, 11:56
The wheels are on the car!!!!!!!!!!!

Out with the old....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32343170@N07/3411619858/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32343170@N07/3411619858/in/photostream/)

And in with the older.......

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32343170@N07/3411620182/in/photostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/32343170@N07/3411620182/in/photostream/)

One step closer to standard, next it's the exhaust and brakes, recommendations welcome, thanks for all the help again, i've made a donation to jv's charity of choice in gratitude.
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: JC on 04 April 2009, 13:09
1, looks a lot better  :cool:

2, donating already :afro:

3, just new to go LOWER

4, what was the " problem " then  :laugh:
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: paulyV6 on 04 April 2009, 13:45
Please tell me you didn't pay a ridiculous amount of money for them because they aren't RM's!!!!

Possibly RZ's, but not split rims and therefore $cene tax is not applicable.

£100 - £150 if they're in good nick with all 4 centre caps.
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: paulyV6 on 04 April 2009, 13:48
Looked again - def NOT RM's, but that's not an RZ centre cap on the front either.
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: Wayne on 04 April 2009, 19:12
As above I don't think that is RM's
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 April 2009, 19:18
if they arent rm's ive got a cheap set of rs's for sale


























(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5146/phto00391ie.jpg)

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Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: xAx on 04 April 2009, 20:42
look like the ones from a bimmer E30 to me
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: bomp on 05 April 2009, 18:57
They are 14" BBS RJ's I think, rocco wheels originaly.
Title: Re: First MK2, bought some RM's and the back ones don't FIT!!????
Post by: dan7 on 05 April 2009, 19:49
Quote from: veedubgti16v on 04 April 2009, 19:18
if they arent rm's ive got a cheap set of rs's for sale

Reeeeaaallllyyy?

























(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5146/phto00391ie.jpg)

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