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Title: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: kdiz on 03 April 2009, 09:50
I guess this is proof that VW are testing it to out etc.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/234934/even_hotter_golf_r20_spotted_at_the_ring.html
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: eightyeightmph on 03 April 2009, 10:06
Shame they're dropping the V6 but I guess it makes sense, should be a bit more interesting than the GTi anyway! :)
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Wayne on 03 April 2009, 10:22
Still less power than a Focus rs, going to interesting to see what is quicker on the road.
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: dan_apps on 03 April 2009, 10:26
270bhp r20 4wd - rs is still 2wd iirc, so the power is down more, not sure if the the tunability of the ford engine is as good as vw either.
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Wayne on 03 April 2009, 10:30
270bhp r20 4wd - rs is still 2wd iirc, so the power is down more, not sure if the the tunability of the ford engine is as good as vw either.

Volvo T5 lump in the Focus so very easy to tweak.
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 03 April 2009, 10:31
Love how it's got a TDI badge on the rear  :grin: I think it looks nice, bar the masking tape to hold it together, oh and the twin exhaust at the back, I know it's not finished but that needs sorting.
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: dan_apps on 03 April 2009, 10:37
270bhp r20 4wd - rs is still 2wd iirc, so the power is down more, not sure if the the tunability of the ford engine is as good as vw either.

Volvo T5 lump in the Focus so very easy to tweak.

interesting, i do actually like the look of the new rs but if i had the cash (and i dont) for increased hp purposes and drivaility the obvious choice would be 4wd! (just checked and autoexpress say the rs is going to be 2wd with a LSD)
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Wayne on 03 April 2009, 10:50
270bhp r20 4wd - rs is still 2wd iirc, so the power is down more, not sure if the the tunability of the ford engine is as good as vw either.

Volvo T5 lump in the Focus so very easy to tweak.

interesting, i do actually like the look of the new rs but if i had the cash (and i dont) for increased hp purposes and drivaility the obvious choice would be 4wd! (just checked and autoexpress say the rs is going to be 2wd with a LSD)

Yes the RS is fwd but most of the roadtests have said it handles really well with no torque steer.
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: A7 UFO on 03 April 2009, 13:13
same kerb weight as a GTi yet it has 4wd?  :shocked:  That's impressive if it's accurate.

High BHP FWD cars with ATB diffs work well on tracks but in the cold crap surfaced real world they'll always be jittery.  4wd is always going to be the sensible way forward.
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 April 2009, 19:37
High BHP FWD cars with ATB diffs work well on tracks but in the cold crap surfaced real world they'll always be jittery.  4wd is always going to be the sensible way forward.

Some of us have been going on about this for some number of years now......
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Paul86S2 on 03 April 2009, 19:42

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Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Paul86S2 on 03 April 2009, 19:44
Sorry missed the  :grin: off of the above post
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 April 2009, 19:46
bar the masking tape to hold it together

You may find that the masking tape is just that - it's masking design features they don't want us to see.

You bloody Golf3 boys - you think everything's held together with masking tape and rust - it's not like that on other Golfs, you know  :tongue:
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 03 April 2009, 20:02
bar the masking tape to hold it together

You may find that the masking tape is just that - it's masking design features they don't want us to see.

You bloody Golf3 boys - you think everything's held together with masking tape and rust - it's not like that on other Golfs, you know  :tongue:
You Golf2 boys lol. You knows all abouts the rusts so don't give us crap :P


Not long now then DH until round 2 :)
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Wayne on 03 April 2009, 20:45
same kerb weight as a GTi yet it has 4wd?  :shocked:  That's impressive if it's accurate.

High BHP FWD cars with ATB diffs work well on tracks but in the cold crap surfaced real world they'll always be jittery.  4wd is always going to be the sensible way forward.

All of the Focus Rs road tests have said it is fine and none have mentioned torque steer.
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: dan_apps on 03 April 2009, 20:48
same kerb weight as a GTi yet it has 4wd?  :shocked:  That's impressive if it's accurate.

High BHP FWD cars with ATB diffs work well on tracks but in the cold crap surfaced real world they'll always be jittery.  4wd is always going to be the sensible way forward.

All of the Focus Rs road tests have said it is fine and none have mentioned torque steer.

yes im sure it is for 193 bhp but as soon as you start tinkering under the hood like most dubbers would do its a different story
Title: Re: New Golf R20 Spotted At The Ring
Post by: Wayne on 03 April 2009, 21:08
same kerb weight as a GTi yet it has 4wd?  :shocked:  That's impressive if it's accurate.

High BHP FWD cars with ATB diffs work well on tracks but in the cold crap surfaced real world they'll always be jittery.  4wd is always going to be the sensible way forward.

All of the Focus Rs road tests have said it is fine and none have mentioned torque steer.

yes im sure it is for 193 bhp but as soon as you start tinkering under the hood like most dubbers would do its a different story

Focus RS is 303bhp from the factory, it has a special design of lower ball joint which somehow cancels the torque steer.