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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Trickyboy on 02 April 2009, 18:35
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So it seems to be a very grey area, would an r-tech remap void a warranty? Im sure it would, but just want to check.
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gray area yes.
will only affect associated parts of the engine. and unless u tell the vw dealer they wont know...
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have a read of the thread below, you are correct in saying its a grey area and when you PM'd me about it, i was in no way fobbing you off to try to sell the car, i have been about on here for a while so ask around if you are uncertain :smiley: as i said the dealer i use has been told and didnt have an issue with it, that said you can get the car reflashed back to standard map very easily, but to be honest when you have a go you wont want to!
http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/vw-golf-gti-forum/113418-remapping-golf-gti.html (http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/vw-golf-gti-forum/113418-remapping-golf-gti.html)
couldnt find a thread here and i know its been discussed alot too!
Dan :smiley:
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and unless u tell the vw dealer they wont know...
if they plug it into the ecu to do an update they will!
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not from what everyone says, it will wipe it yes but not know its remapped. unless its a physical chip
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and unless u tell the vw dealer they wont know...
if they plug it into the ecu to do an update they will!
Not neccessarily, as most decent tuners now reset the flash counter each time a map (std or otherwise) is uploaded via the OBD2 port.
The only company I know that provide some form of warranty in the event that a dealer fuses a claim due to a remap is superchips.
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the software code changes and vw aint that daft im afraid mate! :smiley:
and unless u tell the vw dealer they wont know...
if they plug it into the ecu to do an update they will!
Not neccessarily, as most decent tuners now reset the flash counter each time a map (std or otherwise) is uploaded via the OBD2 port.
The only company I know that provide some form of warranty in the event that a dealer fuses a claim due to a remap is superchips.
yes, i was going to lead on to say unless you have the selector switch, but i dont and its my car he talking about :wink:
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When the car gets remapped we have the option to zero the flash counter or revert it back the setting prior to there map. The remap wont show up on the dealers tools because the software code is the same as the std mapping, If the dealers could see the remap RSA key and checksumm then they could for deffo say it has been remapped. If they wanted to dig deep to void a warranty claim they could log the requested output values and compare with another car, or even test drive the car.
I tell all my customers the remap could void a warranty, I also tell my customers to be honest with there dealers and tell themthe car has been remapped, this way they will work with you, because at the end of the day they get paid to carry out warranty work.
Nick
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thanks for clearing that up Nick :afro:
Trickyboy i just wanted to be honest with you and my understanding was they could detect the map but as you can see there is floors in the system! :smiley:
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oy cookster - did you declare the remap in ya ad - if so :afro:
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oy cookster - did you declare the remap in ya ad - if so :afro:
why dnt ya look at the ad :rolleyes:
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bit busy - :grin:
wait a mo
Oh yeah, good lad . :wink:
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Thanks for the advice chaps! I trust ya cookie :grin: lol
The candy white is defo growing on me...
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Wasnt there a thread knocking around off the seat forum. A guy with a car on lease had it mapped, seat found it when the engine failed and the guy was forced to repay the car, excess and repair costs! The remap company claimed it was undetectable but they noticed immediately!
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Wasnt there a thread knocking around off the seat forum. A guy with a car on lease had it mapped, seat found it when the engine failed and the guy was forced to repay the car, excess and repair costs! The remap company claimed it was undetectable but they noticed immediately!
The remap company claimed it was undetectable but they noticed immediately! Same old!
Best to be honest, If the dealers have a good reason to think the car has been remapped then they will find out one way or another. I have a customer with a 2008 VW Transporter T5 174bhp which I remapped which keeps having silly faults with the engine, the dealer knows the van has been remapped to 205bhp but they continue to carry out the repairs under warranty. If the the turbo blows, or gear box fecks up it could be another story, but because the customer is not trying to pull the wool over the dealers eyes I can see the dealer working with the owner if the turbo goes bang. :wink:
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I would expect it is dealer dependent as well.
I dont think there is a black and white answer. I know someone who had a manifold on their car, didnt tell insurance, crashed and they didnt pay out. I know of someone who did something similar and got a payout (through a forum)
If you want to take the risk you may be lucky or you may not. I agree with the more honest you are the better chance you stand.
Give your local dealer a call and ask, they may be ok with it and offer you a guarantee in writing with the map? Cant hurt!
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I would expect it is dealer dependent as well.
I dont think there is a black and white answer. I know someone who had a manifold on their car, didnt tell insurance, crashed and they didnt pay out. I know of someone who did something similar and got a payout (through a forum)
If you want to take the risk you may be lucky or you may not. I agree with the more honest you are the better chance you stand.
Give your local dealer a call and ask, they may be ok with it and offer you a guarantee in writing with the map? Cant hurt!
Good post! I think it sums it up in one.
Take a risk or be honest... :undecided:
Nick
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Loads of useful replies and feedback, thanks again guys.