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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: jake on 30 March 2009, 23:20

Title: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 30 March 2009, 23:20
In three weeks im going to have around 1,000 to spend on my 1.8t, at the moment my car is 193bhp from a stage 1 remap.

Its the ARZ engine so runs off the ko3.

I want to upgrade to the ko3s turbo to get to around 240-250bhp. I have read alot of threads about this but i just want to finalize things
before i start spending.

If i buy a ko3s will it bolt straight onto my existing manifold?
Can i run it off standard injectors?

I am going to be purchasing a front mount intercooler at the same time as the turbo. Is there anything else i need apart from a remap w
when i have installed the turbo and intercooler?

thanks

jake
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: 1688bran on 30 March 2009, 23:26
u be lucky to get 230bhp mate ....
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: boxxer1973 on 30 March 2009, 23:41
my aum on revo stage 2
Fmic milltek turbo back and cai got 220 and 256lbft torque
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: 1688bran on 30 March 2009, 23:49

  how's ur car ry ?
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 00:37
would u perhaps recommend the k04?

would the ko4 run off standard injectors?

and would i need a new manifold?
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: 1688bran on 31 March 2009, 00:41
would u perhaps recommend the k04?

would the ko4 run off standard injectors?

and would i need a new manifold?

u will need oil and water lines ,manifold,k04 turbo ,modified downpipe ,tt injectors and turbo inlet pipe ,3" maf
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 00:48
what about if i go along the route of getting the ko3s turned into a hrbrid? :huh:

would anything like that then?
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: 1688bran on 31 March 2009, 01:28
hybrid turbo ,downpipe,cat back exhaust,after market DV ,silicone TIP ,induction kit ,fmic and a custom remap  will get u around 280bhp ... jus to get the k03 hybrid turbo will cost u back near 1k ! 1k to spend on to gain performance is not that much especially to get over 240bhp mark ...
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: sambo on 31 March 2009, 08:36
Stick with the ko3s for the grand mate. I'd get the turbo, forge tip, fmic, and remap. I've just done this and got 220bhp with a small issue. Goes well though you will be suprised. If i decide i want more power i will invest in another ko3s to hybrid which can then be bolted straight on. 250 is a tough figure you either have to settle for less or spend a lot for not much more, or spend loads for BT and new manifold etc..


Sam
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: the_stink on 31 March 2009, 14:48
have a look at Bav's build hes got some nice figs and has pretty much the same set up as above

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104532.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104532.0)
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 16:03
turbo tecnichs quoted me 300pound to turn the ko3s into a hyrbid!!!

where did you get 1k from? :huh:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: gjroe78 on 31 March 2009, 16:34
have a look at Bav's build hes got some nice figs and has pretty much the same set up as above

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104532.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104532.0)
Fook me he's spent a few quid on that  :shocked:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: 1688bran on 31 March 2009, 17:35
turbo tecnichs quoted me 300pound to turn the ko3s into a hyrbid!!!

where did you get 1k from? :huh:

r u sure is 300 pound to turn k03s into hybrid ??? from what i know of minimum 500 pound to 900 pound
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 17:37
yeah i rang them yesterday afternoon, and they said 320 plus vat, so ok nearer to 350. :smiley:

how did bav get to 252?

what turbo is he running off?
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: 1688bran on 31 March 2009, 18:07
yeah i rang them yesterday afternoon, and they said 320 plus vat, so ok nearer to 350. :smiley:

how did bav get to 252?

what turbo is he running off?

not sure what turbo he's running on but if u look at his torque output is 290lb which is quite abit more than any stage2 remap ...
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 18:08
how do you go to the stage 3 on a 1.8t?
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: 1688bran on 31 March 2009, 18:16
well this is a hard question to explain cuz every company class their stage 3 differently ... for example CUSTOM CODE stage 3 is for hybrid turbo only .... and some company dont even have stage 3 they jus do a custom remap ... AMD DO a stage 3 is jus a ECU remap with the addition of a Milltek Exhaust system and Hyflow Cats - to include fitting, performance road test and full diagnostic test.
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: sambo on 31 March 2009, 18:19
£350 for a hybrid!?

Did they give you any idea whats the gains are likely to be? Could be worth a go that  :grin:

Sam
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 31 March 2009, 18:22
I looked into the hybrid route with great depth last year.

Well worth a read
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/221138.aspx?PageIndex=1
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 19:24
you see thats where im getting confused now, i have read loads of times that people have got there ko3s to around 240bhp

and it states it on that link,(thanks for the link patch).

So why are some people saying ill be lucky to get 220?

hmmmmmmmm :huh: :huh:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 31 March 2009, 20:29
There's not many ARZ's about, mate, I don't really know that much about them.  Although, the next big difference between your ARZ & the AUM apart from the turbo, is the VVT.  I'm sure it will make a bit of a difference, but how much of a difference, I'm not sure.

I would think with similar mods to mine, you should be able to hit 220 at least.  (Although, as well as the AUM/Q's, you do have a smaller ported head compared to the superior AGU lump! :P  :D
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: richw911 on 31 March 2009, 20:37
There's not many ARZ's about, mate, I don't really know that much about them.  Although, the next big difference between your ARZ & the AUM apart from the turbo, is the VVT.  I'm sure it will make a bit of a difference, but how much of a difference, I'm not sure.

I would think with similar mods to mine, you should be able to hit 220 at least.  (Although, as well as the AUM/Q's, you do have a smaller ported head compared to the superior AGU lump! :P  :D

Superior AGU's are 1.8T gold  :laugh: :afro:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: Steve_PD on 31 March 2009, 20:38
Superior in every way.......apart from water pumps  :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: Wazzzer on 31 March 2009, 20:43
kick a man while he's down...
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: Steve_PD on 31 March 2009, 20:46
no harm intended  :sad:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: richw911 on 31 March 2009, 20:48
Superior in every way.......apart from water pumps  :grin: :wink:

True  :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 21:20
ur hijacking my thread u twits :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: richw911 on 31 March 2009, 21:24
ur hijacking my thread u twits :grin: :grin:

We do it to all threads  :grin: :grin:

Anyhow finalize you spending na lets find you loads of modifications to do  :evil: :grin:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 31 March 2009, 22:29
I looked into the hybrid route with great depth last year.

Well worth a read
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/221138.aspx?PageIndex=1



Very interesting thread there, Patch.  Think I'm going to stick with what I've got for now, then maybe look into those new shape S3's for later in the year! :P
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: jake on 31 March 2009, 22:49
lol no please dont look for other mods

i want to gain power with a 1,000 pound!! no cosmetics lol :smiley:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: Steve_PD on 31 March 2009, 22:51
Give me th £1000 and Ill increase my power with a hybrid turbo  :evil:  :wink:
Title: Re: FINALIZE MY SPENDING?
Post by: T_J_G on 01 April 2009, 09:34
yeah i rang them yesterday afternoon, and they said 320 plus vat, so ok nearer to 350. :smiley:

how did bav get to 252?

what turbo is he running off?
Ko3s