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Title: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 30 March 2009, 08:07
I'm looking to change my Std 17" Monza's to a 18" size wheel on my 5 door Diamond black GTi. I would like to keep it "VW" so was thinking along the lines of fitting either Monza II's, R32's or ED30 style alloys. The problem for me is i'm undecided on which to choose as I like all three styles.
Whats the general feeling with you guys? Which look the best fitted. What have you fitted to your car? What are the pro's and con's of each style?

Any photo's/comments and/or suggestions would be appreciated..

Cheers     
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: ifti on 30 March 2009, 08:38
The Monza II's are the hardest to keep mark free IMO - unless you're a really careful driver!
Personally I'd go for the Pescara's on the ED30 ;)
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 30 March 2009, 09:06
..........as above. :cool:
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 30 March 2009, 09:51
Keep the 17".
Have you read the EVO tyre test?
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: dubcruiser on 30 March 2009, 10:01
I would go with the Monza II to be honest as they were a GTi option. If you fit the other two designs it will look like your trying to make the car into something it isn't, plus the prive of the Ed30 wheels will be a lot more due to be quite limited...
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 30 March 2009, 10:08
I'm loving my Pescaras, keep looking back at the car when I park her up.... :kiss:
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: Hurdy on 30 March 2009, 12:58
Nothing wrong with going for something aftermarket. As long as the alloys look in keeping with the car and you don't end up getting some horrible chrome/bling wheels then you should be okay. VW alloys, Audi style alloys, BBS, Schmidt etc all have good history with being used on Golfs and so be a little more adventurous :cool:

My alloy history on my current car. :smiley:

Pescara's
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/ed30no2.jpg)
Dare shark
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/5SpokeswithTaroxBigBrakes001a-1.jpg)
Team dynamics (a popular choice as they are lightweight BTCC wheels)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Team%20Dynamics%20alloys/Teamdynamics003a.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Team%20Dynamics%20alloys/Teamdynamics004a.jpg)
And BBS CH Black edition (currently on the car - 19" but you can get 18")
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Cleaned%20ED30/CleanedED30pics24032009005a.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Cleaned%20ED30/CleanedED30pics24032009048a.jpg)
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 30 March 2009, 17:28
Keep the 17".
Have you read the EVO tyre test?

Afraid not...what was the bottom line?
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 30 March 2009, 17:31
Nothing wrong with going for something aftermarket. As long as the alloys look in keeping with the car and you don't end up getting some horrible chrome/bling wheels then you should be okay. VW alloys, Audi style alloys, BBS, Schmidt etc all have good history with being used on Golfs and so be a little more adventurous :cool:

My alloy history on my current car. :smiley:

Pescara's
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/ed30no2.jpg)
Dare shark
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/5SpokeswithTaroxBigBrakes001a-1.jpg)
Team dynamics (a popular choice as they are lightweight BTCC wheels)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Team%20Dynamics%20alloys/Teamdynamics003a.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Team%20Dynamics%20alloys/Teamdynamics004a.jpg)
And BBS CH Black edition (currently on the car - 19" but you can get 18")
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Cleaned%20ED30/CleanedED30pics24032009005a.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Cleaned%20ED30/CleanedED30pics24032009048a.jpg)


Like the current set your running. Do you know if they make them in anthracite or simular? 
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: winrya on 30 March 2009, 17:52
Depends whether you can deal with hassle and enjoy cleaning wheels on a weekly basis??

If you can then the monza'a are one of the best wheels fitted on a production car (IMO) and certainly make the car stand out far more than the pescara's.  However, pescaras are still a nice looking wheel and can be picked up cheaper than a pristine genuine set of monza 18's.  I'm not keen on the first run of r32 wheels but the very last ones look very nice IMO and would select them ahead of pescaras but again, they look like they may suffer white worm??
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: Edition30 on 31 March 2009, 18:05
Like the current set your running. Do you know if they make them in anthracite or simular? 

http://wheelsperformancecom.stores.yahoo.net/bbs.html

Only 2 colours available from the above place. Hurdys (black with stainless steel rim protector) or silver. Nothing to stop a refurbish though. Would be an expensive job like, not a cheap wheel at all. They are called BBS CH just in case you didnt know.

Hurdy keep the CH rims on they look  :cool:

Throw them TD 1.2s in the skip they remind me of all the Astra boys, they are all mad on the TD since the Thurlby T8 was released a couple of years back. They then did a T9 with the BBS CH wheels but they didnt take off on the Astras, god knows why they made it look alot more 'beefy'. Flog them 5 spokes aswel they look  :sick: and obviously keep the Pescaras for when you sell the motor.  :huh: Also whats the disc size of your front brakes?
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 31 March 2009, 18:32
Cheers for the link. The BBS wheels look very nice, expensive but i guess you get what you pay for. I too was thinking about the brake conversion, size of discs, costs etc?
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: Edition30 on 31 March 2009, 18:49
Hurdys are 10 pot Tarox brakes (not sure on disc size somewhere between 330-345 I would have thought). Got them at a really good price if I remember. Still your looking at £1000+ for 4 pots.

Im going to go down the S3/R32/Cupra route. 345mm discs on the front and 310mm (I think) on the rears. Cheaper aswel.
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 31 March 2009, 22:41
Having spent a small fortune on Superbikes over the last 15 years (still am!) I was attracted to the Tarox machined billet calipers which do look very nice. Once i've decided on new wheels I will def have to sort out the brakes. Maybe Tarox maybe refurbed R32 ones, not sure yet.
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: Hurdy on 31 March 2009, 23:10

Hurdy keep the CH rims on they look  :cool:

Throw them TD 1.2s in the skip they remind me of all the Astra boys, they are all mad on the TD since the Thurlby T8 was released a couple of years back. They then did a T9 with the BBS CH wheels but they didnt take off on the Astras, god knows why they made it look alot more 'beefy'. Flog them 5 spokes aswel they look  :sick: and obviously keep the Pescaras for when you sell the motor.  :huh: Also whats the disc size of your front brakes?

Yup, loving the CH's :kiss:

TD 1.2's are staying for trackdays, but I'm being pulled towards some OZ Allegerritas (sp?) at the moment, so may swap at some point for the lighter OZ's as they are HLT too. :cool:

Not measured the discs, but I believe they are 340mm. The calipers will take anything from 330mm to 350mm. :smiley:
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: Hurdy on 31 March 2009, 23:13
Having spent a small fortune on Superbikes over the last 15 years (still am!) I was attracted to the Tarox machined billet calipers which do look very nice. Once i've decided on new wheels I will def have to sort out the brakes. Maybe Tarox maybe refurbed R32 ones, not sure yet.

The TAROX 10 pots are around £2k and another £200 for the red anodising (plus fitting!), but like they say....you get what you pay for :wink:
Title: Re: 18" Wheel upgrade...which ones to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 06 April 2009, 16:50
I've managed to source some OEM Monza II's which are in need of a general refurb. All 4 wheels are in good overall condition with no dents nor are they out of shape. Just the usual kerbing and scratches.
I was just wondering what everyones opinion was about what finish i should go for to suit my diamond black 5 door.
I like them as they come with the D/Cut face but i'm worried about white worm and the durability of this type of finish.
I then began to think of the new 09 monza's with the gloss black inserts which i really like. Then I began to think about getting them powder coated tungsten grey with the gloss black inserts....

HELP !!!
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: RedRobin on 06 April 2009, 17:57
....

The info I posted here may help you, smudger:

Linky : - Killing The White Worm.... (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=726.0)

:afro:
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 06 April 2009, 18:49
....

The info I posted here may help you, smudger:

Linky : - Killing The White Worm.... (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=726.0)

:afro:

Thank you for that link..excellent reading. I'm falling for the mk6 style with the black inserts but i like yours too. Guess its a tough call but thanks again  :smiley:
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: stealthwolf on 06 April 2009, 19:43
The problem with the Monzas is the white worm. It'll happen sooner or later, even if you look after your rims properly, so that's more £££ you're gonna have to spend. I really like RR's solution to it and may be a lot better than what you're getting (silver).

I have thought about the euro ED30 rims which are black Monzas with a polished lip. Look very nice!
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: RedRobin on 06 April 2009, 20:00
....

It's not just Monza's that suffer from white worm - These were on a friend's Mk4 GTI and he'd only had them a short while but it started immediately after the snows and road salts.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/Whiteworm_Chris_Mk4.jpg)
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: lookoutsmudger on 06 April 2009, 20:12
Ouch !!

The wheels i'm looking to buy (there second hand OEM's) already have some white worm on them, also the seller tells me theres a deepish scratch on one of them. I guess if its too deep then it will not possible to have the surface re-cut and a complete powder coated colour will be the only real option.

How much of the diamond cut surface do refurbishers skim off anyway?   
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: Cass on 07 April 2009, 10:52
Just got 2 of my 18" Monza II's replaced by the dealer yesterday under warranty  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Both rear wheels has just started to corrode (fronts absolutely OK so far).

Dealer examined them last Thursday and ordered/replaced a new pair no problem. Car is now 31 months old and looking pristine again :cool:

Benefit of paying top dollar for a UK car with a 3 year warranty :wink:

Cass
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: RedRobin on 07 April 2009, 10:56
^^^^
I couldn't agree more about the warranty etc, but what will you (and others) do when it happens again after warranty?

It's all down to BBS in my opinion - It's such a well known issue and just hasn't been resolved.
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: davoaj on 07 April 2009, 15:03
I suppose that's when you get them painted RR!!

I'll be doing mine smoked chrome when the time finally comes, although the four new ones I've got under warranty are being very well protected with poor boys wheel sealant at the moment.
Title: Re: Monza II's .... which finish to go for ?
Post by: Cass on 07 April 2009, 17:58
^^^^
I couldn't agree more about the warranty etc, but what will you (and others) do when it happens again after warranty?

It's all down to BBS in my opinion - It's such a well known issue and just hasn't been resolved.

Very good point RR and it's something I'm thinking about when renewing my warranty in September. Might have to sell the GTI and get a new one before then :wink:

Cass