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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: mo_utd on 23 March 2009, 03:18
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Hello my fellow dubbers, just need a bit of advide for my mk2 valver. which engine would be the ideal conversion? would i need to change the gearbox?? what sort of bhp are we talking about?? which would be easiest?? or should i just put in an ABF?? I'm really looking for speed and power obviously lol
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1.8t -> 200BHP very easily. Thnank you very much ;)
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1.8T.
It's lighter, more easily tunable, and newer so you are more likely to find ones in better condition.
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Plus even when tuned it'll probably still be better on fuel than the six pot with the same poke :smiley:
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1.8T, much lighter lump which help the handling.
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hmm i dont know. I was taken out the other day in a mk2 vr6, the 2.9 storm lump from a corrado. Tuned to 220hp. That thing was stupidly fast, 0-60 in 4 seconds and he's hit 155mph, and it still had more to give. And the sound of it was jsut amazing.
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VR6 just for the roar :drool:
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like your fronterrror Roar :grin: :lipsrsealed:
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ABF turbo...
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Driven both and loved the VR more, just feels like a roaring grumbling monster! :cool:
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really appreciate the comments, thank you people. so do i change the gearbox or will my std gearbox handle it??
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Vr6 is heavier with 65% of the weight at the front, move the battery to the boot will improve things aswell as will some well-placed strut braces. The conversion is easier aswell, especially if your car is '90 spec. Cant beat the noise! I would change the box, you want the final drive at 3.03 rather than the 3.06 that is standard on a 2.8 golf vr6. Ben
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both old school, this is what you want in there :wink:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=200322065734
300 ponies with re-map and exhaust :grin:
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Ive had three 20v now and no vr6, love the spooling noise of a turbo
got mine running at 340bhp but seen turbo'd vr's making this aswell
personally next golf will try and go vrt route :evil:
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Charged vr's sound immense. Im thinking of a supercharger for my next big thing. Headgasket spacer and away you go, They are strong engines and can take a fair bit of power without any major work.
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lunacy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPNcVJFG_4w&feature=related
more lunacy! :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4QLSzFCurE
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I think I'm gonna go with the vr6. Just seen some clips on YouTube and the roar is mental! Do I need to change my radiator? I should definately put g60 brakes. Anything else I should change?
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What you need is mk2vr6.com
thank me later :wink:
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With the VR conversion you will need the VR box as well as the running gear (Hubs, carriers, shafts, cable shifter etc.), with the 1.8T you can retain all of your running gear but you will need to plum in an intercooler with all the associated pipe work, both require higher pressure fuel pump, ECU's, some form of mapping and exhaust fabrication.
VR is heavy and it sits too far farward in the bay if your after outright balance on handling, power to weight ratio on the wrong side, 1.8T sits pretty neatly just as the standard motor, lighter better scope on handling.
So ultimately the choice is your on your what your after from the conversion, I wouldn't go into the fuel debate as both can be thirsty as each other depending on the state of tune/power, also very dependant on the budget, clips on youtube and the practical of the actual conversion are two very different things, so consider carefully and then select.
PS. R32 conversions sits even further forward in the bay.. :evil:
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You can retain the original shafts, hubs and wishbones.. just need to change the k-frame. Can keep your 4-stud aswell. :wink:
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With the VR conversion you will need the VR box as well as the running gear (Hubs, carriers, shafts, cable shifter etc.), with the 1.8T you can retain all of your running gear but you will need to plum in an intercooler with all the associated pipe work, both require higher pressure fuel pump, ECU's, some form of mapping and exhaust fabrication.
Exhaust is fine, just need a de-cat pipe or keep the cat on there. Digi fuel pump is fine and will work, no mapping is required, just the vr6 ecu. Dont confuse the poor lad. :grin:
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With the VR conversion you will need the VR box as well as the running gear (Hubs, carriers, shafts, cable shifter etc.), with the 1.8T you can retain all of your running gear but you will need to plum in an intercooler with all the associated pipe work, both require higher pressure fuel pump, ECU's, some form of mapping and exhaust fabrication.
Exhaust is fine, just need a de-cat pipe or keep the cat on there. Digi fuel pump is fine and will work, no mapping is required, just the vr6 ecu. Dont confuse the poor lad. :grin:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Confusion that's me in total...
We've always found the standard 8v pump weak at the top end, not enough pressure and tends to lean out over the curve, so we tend to advise change of pump and in some cases for the 1.8T the injectors along with ecu mapping to recalibrate the injector duty/timing/iginition, again it's all down what power the customer wants.
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Cant beat the noise of the VR6 in a mk2 and with the right parts they handle really well,
BUT mt current is a MK2 Golf with the AUM,qpeng 2stage management so from 150/230bhp ish?? and to be fair its much beter than the VR6 any day of the week :evil: BOOST :evil: lol
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I've driven the 150 and 180bhp 1.8T in Audi form. To be honest neither of them impressed me that much.
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1.8T's allways struck me as very flat boreing engines espectaly in std form, they do also suffer heavly for scene tax but i would much rather pay £1000 for a 225 rather than £600 for a 150
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wait till spring fest and watch all the mk2 1.8ts blowing away all the mk2 vr6's(unless of course they are also charged) :cool:
im on my second 1.8t and i agree that they are boring engines, but they are very tuneable and reliable(touch wood), however i would like a vr one day .
Turbos for fun, v6 for old men
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16vt is optimal engine imo just expensive tho