GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: maxp on 19 March 2009, 18:38

Title: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: maxp on 19 March 2009, 18:38: Seeing as both the tweeters work but neither front speaker works ive figured the best place to start will be from the car stero backwards.

Can anyone recommend where i'd start? Am i gonna have to take the whole dash to get at it properly?
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: JimR on 19 March 2009, 18:43: Speakers in the door? Do you have a component set up up front (with x-overs) or have i mis-understood and your 'tweeters' are the dash speakers and your 'front speakers' are in the door but wired to the rear speaker output? More info needed amigo.
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: maxp on 19 March 2009, 18:58: Sos for my vagueness, i called them tweeters but maybe they arent....anyway i meant the tiny speakers at the far corners of the dashboard.
When i turn the stereo on, the sound only comes out of these, they basically sound like very high pitched, tinny and quite - like headphones so thats why i thought they were tweeters.

Nada coming from either footwell / door speaker
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: Rodriguez on 19 March 2009, 19:08: Same problem here. :huh:
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: muppet on 19 March 2009, 22:42: could be old and nackered!!! if theyre original speakers and if you doors might have been leaking the speakers in the doors might have rusted connections or maybe even broken off?!?!?! worth taking out to look if you havent already
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: maxp on 19 March 2009, 23:48: Quote from: muppet on 19 March 2009, 22:42
could be old and nackered!!! if theyre original speakers and if you doors might have been leaking the speakers in the doors might have rusted connections or maybe even broken off?!?!?! worth taking out to look if you havent already
Fair point mate. I tried swapping the speakers over, plus i had a spare knocking around which i tried on each door and no sound out of any of them. Could be terrible luck that all three speakers were broken but i think its unlikely.
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: drapergti on 20 March 2009, 08:07: It depends how the door speakers have been wired in.

Have a look at the dash speakers and see if the wires have been tapped to send a signal to the door speakers, if they are broken it or fallen off this will be the cause.

Alternatively have a look at the back of the headunit, to check for broken / missing connection.

Another possible option is the speaker wires have broken somewhere else like between the door and the frame.

If all else fails and you can identifiy the right wires and insulate them, I would drop in a new cable either from the HU or the dash speakers.

Its a little fiddly but can be done and may be quicker to do, but make sure you insulate the old wires or remove them.

Cheers
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: AdamMk2 on 20 March 2009, 18:04: Couple of ways to attack this one lads.

Basically the HU is going to have to come out for a start.

Now you have your original loom im assuming, however over the years maybe things have been altered off of this.

In your original loom is it the plug or have things been bullet connectored off it?

If its bullet connector thats a bonus because fault finding becomes less hassle!

going on Bullet connectored firstly

Check all connections are tight and crips are touching cable not sheath, then move to offending speakers and check there.

Once thats been done if all is sound swap around rear speaker output on the HU loom bullet connectors with the offending front ones and see if it works.

IF SO

there should be a channel down on the HU (Front), they do offer repair services, usually resistors go, but can be quite pricy to have done £80ish is a common charge I believe

IF NOT

check continuity of cabble with a continuity tester (This can be performed by connector blocking both + and - ends of the cable speaker end and one prong each on + and - loom end. tester will buzz if continuity of cable is present.)

If it doesnt buzz and show continuity you have damaged cable somewhere and is adviseable to change if poss :smiley:

This also means you can repair the cable however it may pay to run newer insulated cable without joins

Hope this helps lads

:cool:

Ad
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: maxp on 20 March 2009, 21:10: Thanks mate, mega helpful.

Just a cautious question - went to remove the stereo and its totally wedged in. It might help to remove the heater control underneath it - i can remove the casing but how do i get the temperature sliders out, can i just yank them?
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: JimR on 21 March 2009, 08:27: Yeah, just grab pinch them and pull them out.
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: AdamMk2 on 21 March 2009, 10:29: Quote from: maxp on 20 March 2009, 21:10
Thanks mate, mega helpful.

Just a cautious question - went to remove the stereo and its totally wedged in. It might help to remove the heater control underneath it - i can remove the casing but how do i get the temperature sliders out, can i just yank them?

If I remeber right the face pulls off after the sliders have been pulled out. then to losen off the heater unit you need to undo two screws I think :rolleyes: haha

I am assuming you havent got any remover keys for the HU?

You should be able to get replacement keys for HU to remove them, take the surround off first to see the slots :wink:

What HU is it?

Thanks

Ad
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: maxp on 21 March 2009, 14:05: Quote from: AdamMk2 on 21 March 2009, 10:29
What HU is it?

Wouldnt mind if it was some cheap crap but its an alpine 9887r im slowly bending and damaging :cry:
Edit: finally got the b*stard out, an hour later. Pulled so hard the car was shaking at one point.
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: sidecarphil on 21 March 2009, 17:12: Quote from: maxp on 21 March 2009, 14:05
Pulled so hard the car was shaking at one point.

:grin: :grin: :grin:

been there done that

did you get it fixed ??

i re-wired mine when i put my pioneer speekers in the car

better now :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: maxp on 26 March 2009, 21:52: Sorry to resurrect this, but does anyone know if the footwell speakers run from the tiny dashmounted ones or from the headunit 'area'?

Pulled what i could out from where the stereo goes but couldnt see any purple/yellow wires.
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: drapergti on 27 March 2009, 07:57: I don't know how they are wired in from factory I'm afraid (I am sure someone here will) however when I added my door speakers to a previous mk2 I used the dashboard speakers as a feed.
Title: Re: Best way to attack speaker problem?
Post by: k33p it low on 27 March 2009, 08:17: I had exactly the same problem on my 8v. the door speakers werent working. so I pulled the HU out and unplugged it and checked the wires going from the dash to the back with a multimeter for resistance.
the Problem was that some numpty spliced the wires for the door speakers into the wires going to the rear speakers, which increased the resistance in the wires so there wasnt enough power for the mb quat door speakers. what I did to solve this, I diconnected the sh!tty dash speakers and feed only the door speaker with the wires from the dash speakers. then repaired the cut wires for the rears and its working very well now and finally I can turn the radio up loud without the sh!t dash speakers crackling away. hope this helps.