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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: rskardon on 18 March 2009, 11:37
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Hi there, I have booked my car in to have the cambelt changed with a Main dealer as they advised that at 4 years it should be done, its a bit pricey at £470 but not as crazy as i was expecting, anyway when i looked in my manual last night it lists the change at 6 years/ 120,000 miles.
Have these numbers been revised in newere manuals? (Mine is 2005)?
I just want to check it needs doing,
Cheers,
R
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Spoke about this the other week as I also got a letter stating that it needed changing. It was revised and is now every 4 years / 60,000 miles recommended.
Just to make you feel better I got a voucher from the dealer saying they will do it for £300 . . . :lipsrsealed:
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Can i have the voucher then???
No???
Even if I say please??
;)
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Ummmmmmm no :D
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Christ! year 4 is a right doozy in terms of running the GTI eh?
I am at 34,000 miles. Car was serviced last March 25th and I thought that it was on LL....Car is now coming up and saying...SERVICE in 2500 miles or 15 days!
So,
1. DSG service = circa £250
2. Cambelt change = circa £470
3. Main Service = quoted £240!!
Bleedin heck its worse than a Porker! £960!!! There goes the revo and e30 rear and new milltek and smoothed sides, (getting rid of the ABT).
Slapperooni in the face that.
:sad: :sad:
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Bloody hell, thats steep for a service!!!
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The 40k service is a killer :(
Even worse if your running a DSG.
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So its every 40k service that are the worst because of the cambelt and DSG (if you have DSG)?
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So its every 40k service that are the worst because of the cambelt and DSG (if you have DSG)?
Nah, 40k is just expensive because of the work that is involved on that service, not the cambelt (the cambelt just happens to be due around the same time, say you do 10k miles a year you will be on 40k at the 4 year interval when the cambelt is due). Had my 40k service in December and I cant quite remember the cost but was about £320 (I've got shocking memory :rolleyes:). So I have effectively spent £620 :o in 4 months on service work (and thats without the DSG service am Im running a manual stick)
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So its every 40k service that are the worst because of the cambelt and DSG (if you have DSG)?
Nah, 40k is just expensive because of the work that is involved on that service, not the cambelt (the cambelt just happens to be due around the same time, say you do 10k miles a year you will be on 40k at the 4 year interval when the cambelt is due). Had my 40k service in December and I cant quite remember the cost but was about £320 (I've got shocking memory :rolleyes:). So I have effectively spent £620 :o in 4 months on service work (and thats without the DSG service am Im running a manual stick)
You say they do a lot, but its only Sparks, Pollen Filter and brake fluid, i asked for the air filter to be changed too, i cant believe they reckon its good for 60,000! it must be pretty full of crap by 20000 i'd have thought. The real kick in the nuts is that i need the MOT too another 55 on top
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I know this isnt the right thread for it, but is there a list of all services and whats included in each service with approx prices anywhere?
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Its all in the Manual if you have it?
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Its a bit more than that, I will try and dig up the receipt when I get back from work today. They also do a brake a fluid change and A/C service (optional every 2 years but advised) which add to the cost.
I also have MOT which is being done on Saturday (fingers crossed). Iv spent quite a bit on the motor the last 6 months, all worth every penny.
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ok should i add to my list of the above UPDATED Prices :cry: :cry:....
Maybe I will try an independent VW specialist for cambelt to get that down a bit?
1. DSG service = £134.82
2. Cambelt change = £411.83
3. Main Service = T&D service £140.31 (oil, fliter,screen wash, check)....plugs, £73.91
4. Brake fluid change = £45.02? (or is this part of 3)
5. Aircon/ pollen filter = ? (or is this part of 3 too)...PF £18.70 AC=£40.99
£865.62!!!
FFS D.I.V.O.R.C.E.
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Brake fluid and A/C work as mentioned in my previous post are extra and not part of the service.
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Clearly I intend to phone around a few garages....Sorry OP for the Thread Jack, but it is kind of relevant in terms of costs and awareness of the cambelt issue too.
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dam 4 years need mine done as well !!
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my advice...befriend a VW worker and get it done cheap as chips.
£35 I was told for first service.
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I may be completely wrong but isn't it that you are advised to inspect the timing belt after 4 years - not necesseraly replace it?
Stealers are fine for warranty work, and I can understand using them for servicing within the warranty period, but in my experience smaller garages that have to earn their reputation rather than buying it are not only cheaper but give much better service.
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I may be completely wrong but isn't it that you are advised to inspect the timing belt after 4 years - not necesseraly replace it?
2 dealers (my local one I went for the service and the one further afield in Maidstone where I bought the car from) have both written to me saying it is advised it be replaced (not inspected). TBH for £300 to get it replaced at the dealers Im just going to do that :)
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Can't argue with £300.
Last time I was in the local stealers I'm sure it was up on the wall as being something criminal like £500 :sick:
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Yeah it is (I dont expect you to read the whole thread as its not that exciting lol). I have a £300 voucher from the dealers as thats where I bought the car from. My local dealer gave me a "discount" and quoted me £470 . . . :sick:
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I think we are all being stiched up like kippers in respect of this change. The manual states 120,000 miles. I believe that this is a uk only policy change. WTF do Germany do? Can we find out? This is slot of money and you wonder if vw uk are just trying to bolster their main dealer profits.
I smell a rat.
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TBH I agree - why would it be a UK only change??
Is there somet in the air that eats the cambelt quicker??!! lol
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I think I would need it verified first re the uk change only. At least that's what they're saying on uk mkvis. If it is then it's a dramatic change and given the number if mk5s now moving into year four it's a sizeable income for them. Perhaps TT can throw in some technical information either in support of vw or against their argument. £411! Jesus H. :angry:
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My mate has an 05 GTI - completely stock.
He runs on LL servicing and just took it into the dealers whenever the light came on and let them do whatever they needed to do. I think he's gonna change to T&D servicing since Ive educated him (thanks to T_T's thread!!) lol.
Made me look like I knew what I was talking about for a change!
Anyways, I just asked him if he's ever had a cambelt change. He says he hast. He's approaching 60,000 miles now. His dealer hasnt mentioned it - now is that a good or a bad thing??!!
It seems this may be dealer specific then? Some dealers change the cambelt at 40k or 4 years, while other dont??
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I honestly think the ones pushing for a 4 year change are just chancing their arm and doing a bit of scaremongering to boot. I haven't heard anything from my dealer and they are usually not shy at drumming up work.
I know for the mk4 1.8T the book said change at 120k miles, but INSPECT from 60k onwards. I think this changed for some of the later models to a shorter interval. TBH for my own peace of mind I wouldn't leave it later than 60k but I'm not convinced by this 4 year business, if I can be bothered I'll have a look in the book later - I suspect it will say something like inspect from 4 years onwards rather than you must replace at 4 years :undecided:
Edit - Just gone out and got the book for an early 05 GTI AXX engine service book published 09.2004
@60k (then every 20k) engine cambelt is checked (petrol engines only)
@80k miles camshaft drive belt is replaced - 4cyl unit injector engines only
@120k miles camshaft drive belt is replaced (2.0L 110kW and 147 kW TFSI only)
@160 miles toothed belt tensioning roller is replaced :shocked:
Every 2 Years
Brake fluid is changed
Dust and pollen insert is replaced (for vehicles driven less than 40k miles in 2 years)
Every 4 Years
The tyre filler bottle in the breakdown set is replaced if applicable
The sparkplugs are replaced for vehicles driven less than 40k miles in 4 years (not 147kW TFSI engine)
The sparplugs are replaced for vehicles driven less than 60k miles in 4 years (147kW TFSI engine only)
Every 6 Years
The air filter is changed for vehicles driving less than 60k miles in 6 years
The tyre pressure sensors (if fitted) are renewed :huh: (thought the system on Golfs used the ABS sensors)
No mention of 4 years anywhere.
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Does anyone know the contact details of VW UK? could ask them what the official line is, surely if its essential they would send us a new servicing schedule?
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Had mine changed at 42,000 as recommended, the dealer also 'found' fault bearings that needed replacing at the same time. This is the same dealer that didn't top the oil up fully on my previous service, oil light came on as soon as I left the forecourt!
Anyone recommend a decent VW garage in the West Midlands??
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Does anyone know the contact details of VW UK? could ask them what the official line is, surely if its essential they would send us a new servicing schedule?
Good point
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Does anyone know the contact details of VW UK? could ask them what the official line is, surely if its essential they would send us a new servicing schedule?
Good point
Right, well I rang the VW UK line ( 0800 0833 914) and spoke to someone in the Technical team, they said that the recommendation is 4 Years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes sooner.
To do 120,000 in 4 years would be going some! anyway at least the 4 year thing does appear to be the official line, i asked if it was an update but she wasnt sure,
Cheers,
R
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Oh well.... Nothing for it then .... Still I've got 6 months.
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The 40k service is a killer :(
Even worse if your running a DSG.
Had my DSG oil change service included with my Quaife install :cool: