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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: ShaneO on 11 March 2009, 21:22

Title: mk4 arb's
Post by: ShaneO on 11 March 2009, 21:22
recently lowered my mk4 golf on coilovers... its down about 90/100mm and its rubbing the anti roll bar like a bi*ch to say the least..

i had an fk arb in my old bora and it was a good job but i had to cut and shorten my droplinks.

i was just browsing the net there and i see there is a whiteline one available which goes below the driveshaft... has any1 got one of these or got any other make which is similar??? and were did you get it???

Any help much appreicated.
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Steve_PD on 11 March 2009, 21:38
I got a whiteline arb, tis very good  :cool: also needed adjustable drop links with it.
Got it from balance motorsport with the rear arb :afro:
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: sambo on 11 March 2009, 22:25
How come you needed adjustable drop links mate?  :huh:
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Damian @ DPM on 12 March 2009, 09:21
Eibach 25mm front and 25mm rear kit is always popular with Golf 4 owners and makes a massive differenece to the handling whilst also solving the ARB/Driveshaft issue.

Damian @ DPM Performance
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: ShaneO on 12 March 2009, 19:05
thanks for the help... i need one very soon

why is shortened droplinks needed for the whiteline if it goes under the shaft??

Damian what is the cheapest front arb you have deliveried?? also wots the difference in  22mm and 25mm bars??
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Damian @ DPM on 12 March 2009, 22:06
The 22mm bar isn't for cars lowered beyond 40mm, the 25mm is the one you need to solve the problem.

The quickest one we could get would either be the Eibach 25mm bar which would be next working day...

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/eibach-25mm-front-arb-golf-4-0797-p-22.html

Or the V-Maxx adjustable drop links which would again be next working day...

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/vmaxx-adjustable-front-arb-drop-links-golf-4-0797-p-2468.html

The KW 25mm front ARB would be 5 working days...

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/kw-25mm-front-arb-golf-4-18t-19tdi-0797-p-702.html

Hope this helps.

Damian @ DPM
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: bobbarley on 12 March 2009, 22:07
Damian, want to sell me an Eibach 25mm rear ARB on it's own?  :evil:
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: G60GTI16V on 22 August 2009, 22:56
i read one of ivor's post saying there is no point fitting front and rear as they cancel each other out he recommended fitting the rear for better handling..? i want to upgrade my arb's but now unsure weather to do both or just the rear...
are h&r better than eibech and whitelines?
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Wurzel on 22 August 2009, 23:46
My advise is dont lower it so much, in all honesty I think cars lowered that much just look stupid and are totally impractical on UK roads. I'd be fitting a TT steering rack before lowering my car, would make more of a difference to driving enjoyment I think.

Important suspension mods are - TT wishbone bushes, Fabia vRS rear axle bushes, rear ARB and maybe a beefed up front ARB. That's what I'd do first, then the TT steering column.
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: spetzdude on 23 August 2009, 11:08
would you need the drop links evan if you brought the eibach one?
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: tg1 on 23 August 2009, 15:15
so does having the adjustable droplinks negate the need for a front arb?

And i want   Demand piccys off Said 90-100mm drop  :grin:
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 23 August 2009, 15:24
-90 & 100 mm drop will keep eatin' your bushes, & the whole car's geometery will be way out.  ;)
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: bobbarley on 23 August 2009, 15:26
Surely a new rear ARB will come WITH drop links?
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 23 August 2009, 15:31
Surely a new rear ARB will come WITH drop links?

Yes it will,awesome are doing them with 20% off today.
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: bobbarley on 23 August 2009, 15:34
Surely a new rear ARB will come WITH drop links?

Yes it will,awesome are doing them with 20% off today.

That'll make them the normal price the rest of the world sell them at  :evil:
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 23 August 2009, 15:36
i read one of ivor's post saying there is no point fitting front and rear as they cancel each other out he recommended fitting the rear for better handling..? i want to upgrade my arb's but now unsure weather to do both or just the rear...
are h&r better than eibech and whitelines?


A front ARB on its own would induce (even more) understeer - Fact.

A rear ARB on its own would induce more (lift-off) oversteer - Fact.

Granted, front & rear 25 mm ARB's would be an improvement on the stock set-up, but if you have to have a front ARB because you run silly drops, then I'd suggest a 22 mm front AND a 25 mm rear, as we all know the Mk4 understeers too much as it is!  ;)  (Or for something more hardcore you could try a 25 mm front & 28 mm rear).  Just my 2p!  :afro:
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: bobbarley on 23 August 2009, 15:37
Meh.  I've got a 25mm at the front, and no rear at all!  Still not managed to source a good rear one yet.
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 23 August 2009, 15:39
Meh.  I've got a 25mm at the front, and no rear at all!  Still not managed to source a good rear one yet.


I hope you've got sticky front tyres!!  :P
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: bobbarley on 23 August 2009, 15:41
Falkens, sez it all!!

I'm still not 100% convinced the WL 22mm adjustable rear will do the trick.  I would like to find a 25mm Eibach or even a 28mm rear if possible.  But don't want to pay silly prices for essential a piece of steel!
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 23 August 2009, 16:04
28 rear for some proper tail-waggin' fun!!  8)
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 23 August 2009, 18:48
I run a 26mm front bar and 28mm rear bar on middle setting,you've had a taster as to how that feels.When i really push it i can get the back to hand out,plenty of fun :wink:
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: bobbarley on 23 August 2009, 18:57
What tyres are you running Patch?
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 23 August 2009, 19:01
Not 100% sure,but i think they are continentals on the back and michelin up front,skinny 205's
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: tg1 on 24 August 2009, 07:54
how pikey is it with a big rear arb? i like the idea of less oversteer but the mrs drives the car. Is it only on the limit you'll be getting lift off oversteer? or if she drives like mrs daisy will she be ok?
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Grand Master Patch on 24 August 2009, 21:55
how pikey is it with a big rear arb? i like the idea of less oversteer but the mrs drives the car. Is it only on the limit you'll be getting lift off oversteer? or if she drives like mrs daisy will she be ok?

Mine can be quite tail happy at normal speeds in the rain(30mph roundabouts),if you/your misses aren't up to controlling it then maybe you should consider a smaller bar.I've got used to mine now and know to feather the throttle when it starts to slide in the wet.
Title: Re: mk4 arb's
Post by: Damian @ DPM on 25 August 2009, 10:07
how pikey is it with a big rear arb? i like the idea of less oversteer but the mrs drives the car. Is it only on the limit you'll be getting lift off oversteer? or if she drives like mrs daisy will she be ok?

Putting a bigger rear ARB on will give more oversteer but if you go for something like the adjustable Whiteline one then you can set it up so it's pretty much perfect for everyday use.

Damian @ DPM Performance