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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: MowatGTI on 11 March 2009, 11:54

Title: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: MowatGTI on 11 March 2009, 11:54
Howdy.

Right.  Yesterday I changed my 205/40/17's.  They were buckled and not holding pressure.

Got a set of Audi 215/45/17s.

Fitted them yesterday and the drivers side rear is scrubbing when I go over speed bumps/bumps in the road.  Its the outer wall thats getting scrubbed by the most forward part of the arch.  It bends the metal out, which is digging in.  Managed to bend the metal in again, but it just gets bent again when driving.

In your experience, do 215/45/17s scrub?  The old wheels didn't scrub at all.  Is it just that extra 10mm width, and 10mm profile thats causing it? 

Another thing that puzzled me was that its only happening at one side.  Not sure if there is something wrong with the suspension mabye, or the weight of me on that side is doing it.  Its not been lowered or anything.

Final part:  The tyres on the wheels I removed were only a few months old.  Toyo T1-R's that I spent a lot of cash on.  The Toyo's that are on the new wheels don't have long to go before they'll need changed.  Can I stretch the 205 tyres onto the 215 rims?  10mm doesn't seem that much to me, but I have no experience in doing it.

Cheers

Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Dec on 11 March 2009, 12:01
Bend the metal outwards and that should stop it scrubbing?
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Wayne on 11 March 2009, 12:01
Simple, 215/45/17's are the wrong size tyres, 205/40/17 is the correct size.

Mine also only catched one side and I never got to the bottom of it.
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Wayne on 11 March 2009, 12:02
Yes you can fit the 205's in place of the 215, just for info 215 is the width of the tyre and not the width of the wheel.
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: MowatGTI on 11 March 2009, 12:05
Coolio.

Cheers guys.

I'll be keeping my original tyres then to change over.

Going to have a look at suspension later when its a dit drier to see if its ok.

They shouldn't scrub on a standard suspension set up should they?
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Wayne on 11 March 2009, 12:08
Coolio.

Cheers guys.

I'll be keeping my original tyres then to change over.

Going to have a look at suspension later when its a dit drier to see if its ok.

They shouldn't scrub on a standard suspension set up should they?

No but 215/45's are too big so they will catch on the arch.
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: 0191joe123 on 11 March 2009, 12:57
they will be catching on the right side because of the weight of the petrol tank  :wink:
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: boneybradley on 11 March 2009, 13:16
vw did make the mk3 shell slightly offset making 1 wheel sit further out than the other..its a common issue and very noticable on some!! (mine touches on the passenger side rear too even on 195's!)
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: shepgti on 11 March 2009, 13:19
vw did make the mk3 shell slightly offset making 1 wheel sit further out than the other..its a common issue and very noticable on some!! (mine touches on the passenger side rear too even on 195's!)

... with spacers added?
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: boneybradley on 11 March 2009, 13:22
yes I have spacers but the passenger side wheel does sit further out than the other!! and my last golf was the same! (i know people who have fitted a 3mm spacer to one side to even the wheels out  :shocked:)
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Len on 11 March 2009, 13:23
I used to run 215/40/17 with no problems!

So its definitely the larger profile thats doing it!
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Dec on 11 March 2009, 13:25
one of my wheels used to catch more than the other, i just got the arches cut back a bit :evil:
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: spunkymonkey on 11 March 2009, 15:49
mine dont catch but the pass rear wheel sit slightly further out than the drivers side. think i may have a thin spacer in my garage somewhere.
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: MowatGTI on 11 March 2009, 16:25
I used to run 215/40/17 with no problems!

So its definitely the larger profile thats doing it!

Cheers.

Not sure if I should put my good tyres on now, or leave the others untill it wears the sidewall through!  :evil:

It is scrubbing so much that I would have though it might have scrubbed a bit on my other tyres, but in the two years I ran the car it never scrubbed once.  Can't believe the 10mm makes such a difference.

Cheers again.



Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Len on 11 March 2009, 16:43
If its scrubbing the sidewall, probably against the strut, then that can be dangerouse as the sidewall of a tyre is the most delicate!
Could be heading for a high speed blow out!
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: MowatGTI on 11 March 2009, 16:47
If its scrubbing the sidewall, probably against the strut, then that can be dangerouse as the sidewall of a tyre is the most delicate!
Could be heading for a high speed blow out!

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet! :evil:

Its on the outer side wall.  Scrubbing on the metal (rust) on the most forward part of the o/s/r arch.

I'll keep an eye on it.  Only scrubs when I hit a speed bump.



Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Wayne on 11 March 2009, 16:49
If it is catching the metal arch, I would try and get it sorted asap as you could damage the tyre.
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: kells on 11 March 2009, 17:25
if i was to run a 17 inch rim id go 195/40/17
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Dec on 12 March 2009, 09:12
if i was to run a 17 inch rim id go 195/40/17

My mate runs 185/35/17  :cool: special order from Japan and took 6 months to come!

Rubber band tyres:


(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu95/buzzgti/040.jpg)

Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Wayne on 12 March 2009, 09:18
if i was to run a 17 inch rim id go 195/40/17

My mate runs 185/35/17  :cool: special order from Japan and took 6 months to come!

Rubber band tyres:


(http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu95/buzzgti/040.jpg)



The ride must be shocking.
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: Dec on 12 March 2009, 09:44
He's all about looks :laugh:
Title: Re: Stretching tyres/Alloy question.
Post by: MowatGTI on 12 March 2009, 10:34
Haha - that profile is crazy. 

If I had that, I'd be too scared to take a corner at speed. 

Had 3 folk in the car last night, everytime I pulled away it sounded like I had some mad turbo!

Probably just get my tyres changed over next week and sell the bigger profile for a couple of buck.

Cheers