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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: RyanManning on 10 March 2009, 21:49

Title: Moree speeed
Post by: RyanManning on 10 March 2009, 21:49
I love my golf but it is only a 1.8. i wanta keep the car but i want more speed is there anything that i can do that wont cost over a grand and will give me some more poke?
thanks
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 10 March 2009, 21:50
Not a lot. You could spend a few hundred on uprated cams, but won't give you loads more power.

Most reccomended thing to do is a panel filter, smooth the airbox and then drill holes in the bottom of it near the wing. Then a decent exhaust system.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 21:51
turbo/turbo charger for under 1k
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: RyanManning on 10 March 2009, 21:54
turbo for under 1k?? surly not?

yeah i got a reflex exhaust on it .. where do i drill holes?? there any guides ?

cheers
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 21:55
turbo for under 1k?? surly not?

yeah i got a reflex exhaust on it .. where do i drill holes?? there any guides ?

cheers

depends really but by no means worth it...

guide to airbox http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3063843
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: RyanManning on 10 March 2009, 22:01
Thanks man

Why is it not worth it? surly a turbo will drasticly improve the speed
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Mikester on 10 March 2009, 22:04
Thanks man

Why is it not worth it? surly a turbo will drasticly improve the speed

For a mile, then it blows up. Need to make the engine stronger before you increase the boost, unless you run it at stupidly low boost, getting not much extra power.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 22:04
Thanks man

Why is it not worth it? surly a turbo will drasticly improve the speed

of course but you would loose nearly all you spend on it and insurance would go up alot... and i assume insurance is an issue as you have a 1.8 and not a 16v..
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 10 March 2009, 22:05
Yeah but then you have to upgrade a lot of other things to cope.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: DrewGTI on 10 March 2009, 22:07
Not as clued up as most on here but surely mods like that would hurt on the insurance and also more speed would mean better brakes etc too. .
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: RyanManning on 10 March 2009, 22:09
yeah i guess lol i never think of all the boring stuff like insurance. im only 17 so it kills me as it is. I will be doing the air box thing tho i guess i will have to wait till i am 21 to get some speed.

Thanks guys
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 10 March 2009, 22:10
Very good point Drew.

No way under a grand.

I'm sure it needs an upgraded headgasket too, unless I am mistaken, possibly just for superchargers.

But brakes would need upgrading, which could lead to new wheels too.

Lucky you having a 1.8 at 17, how much is insurance?
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 22:11
Not as clued up as most on here but surely nods like that would hurt on the insurance and also more speed would mean better brakes etc too. .

yea theres loads to consider before bolting on a turbo/supercharger.. anyone who says they want more speed out of anything other than a 16v is basically someone who has bought a mk3 based on what they can afford to insure and their mates have bought faster cars than them and they are jealous..
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 22:12
yeah i guess lol i never think of all the boring stuff like insurance. im only 17 so it kills me as it is. I will be doing the air box thing tho i guess i will have to wait till i am 21 to get some speed.

Thanks guys

i rest my case...
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: RyanManning on 10 March 2009, 22:13
got that down to a tee mate im not going to lie about it. damn starlets...
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 March 2009, 22:28
got that down to a tee mate im not going to lie about it. damn starlets...

Dunno what you're talking about chap lol! My 1.8 GL is a good engine, and pretty quick as well, beats most of the boy racers round my way apart from the ones who are pushing more than a 16V GTI. As far as I'm concerned though, I'm not fussed about speed, I bought the 1.8 as the 1.4 and 1.6 proved to only save me £50 on insurance tops, so thought may as well have a bigger engine. I knew it wasn't fast but I've gone for the low and slow approach. Instead of speed make it look good :)
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 10 March 2009, 22:33
Lol, the 1.6 is quicker. Well one of 'em is. 1.8 has 5lbs more tourque according to the manual I have.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: VW BUSH on 10 March 2009, 22:34
Not as clued up as most on here but surely nods like that would hurt on the insurance and also more speed would mean better brakes etc too. .

mates have bought faster cars than them and they are jealous..

Are we talking about Valvers again?
Kells What do you say :wink:
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 March 2009, 22:38
Lol, the 1.6 is quicker. Well one of 'em is. 1.8 has 5lbs more tourque according to the manual I have.

My 1.8 is the 90BHP version, I'm happy with that personally.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 10 March 2009, 22:40
Not sure what ours is. Same as yours but auto.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 March 2009, 22:42
Not the same then is it? Being an auto  :grin:
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 22:42
got that down to a tee mate im not going to lie about it. damn starlets...

Dunno what you're talking about chap lol! My 1.8 GL is a good engine, and pretty quick as well, beats most of the boy racers round my way apart from the ones who are pushing more than a 16V GTI. As far as I'm concerned though, I'm not fussed about speed, I bought the 1.8 as the 1.4 and 1.6 proved to only save me £50 on insurance tops, so thought may as well have a bigger engine. I knew it wasn't fast but I've gone for the low and slow approach. Instead of speed make it look good :)

exactly its not all about speed! this was what i had for just over a year, top speed of 65 (70 with tailwind!) LOVED it to bits!!

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u261/shep306/wales1.jpg)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u261/shep306/wales3.jpg)

(btw thats not me :wink:)
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 10 March 2009, 22:48
Not the same then is it? Being an auto  :grin:

No, a little slower, but dunno about engine. If I stuck my 1.4 gearbox on it, it would out accelerate yours. Not as quick top end though.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 March 2009, 22:50
Not the same then is it? Being an auto  :grin:

No, a little slower, but dunno about engine. If I stuck my 1.4 gearbox on it, it would out accelerate yours. Not as quick top end though.

I wouldn't give you the time or day of a race, just like I don't with anyone else ;)


shep - Blatantly you in that pick haha! I don't care if you say it's not :P
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 22:52
Not the same then is it? Being an auto  :grin:

No, a little slower, but dunno about engine. If I stuck my 1.4 gearbox on it, it would out accelerate yours. Not as quick top end though.

I wouldn't give you the time or day of a race, just like I don't with anyone else ;)


shep - Blatantly you in that pick haha! I don't care if you say it's not :P

haha sadly it isnt. not to say i wouldnt pull off such a silly pose though..  :grin:
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 10 March 2009, 22:57
Not the same then is it? Being an auto  :grin:

No, a little slower, but dunno about engine. If I stuck my 1.4 gearbox on it, it would out accelerate yours. Not as quick top end though.

I wouldn't give you the time or day of a race, just like I don't with anyone else ;)


I understand. Too embarasing. :wink: Won't be racing anyone with my 1.4!
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 March 2009, 23:01
Not the same then is it? Being an auto  :grin:

No, a little slower, but dunno about engine. If I stuck my 1.4 gearbox on it, it would out accelerate yours. Not as quick top end though.

I wouldn't give you the time or day of a race, just like I don't with anyone else ;)


shep - Blatantly you in that pick haha! I don't care if you say it's not :P

haha sadly it isnt. not to say i wouldnt pull off such a silly pose though..  :grin:

I love pulling faces and poses, that photo from my Lands End trip says it all lol!
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: shepgti on 10 March 2009, 23:08
Not the same then is it? Being an auto  :grin:

No, a little slower, but dunno about engine. If I stuck my 1.4 gearbox on it, it would out accelerate yours. Not as quick top end though.

I wouldn't give you the time or day of a race, just like I don't with anyone else ;)


shep - Blatantly you in that pick haha! I don't care if you say it's not :P

haha sadly it isnt. not to say i wouldnt pull off such a silly pose though..  :grin:

I love pulling faces and poses, that photo from my Lands End trip says it all lol!

haha that ones a classic
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 March 2009, 23:13
For those that haven't seen:


(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1528/snv30809.jpg)

 :grin: :grin: :grin:


Back on topic now, this is not way for me to lead by example lol! ^^^  :laugh: Anyway, stick with what you got buddy, just make it look the shizzle. Low and slow, and you're sorted. Give it a couple years and build up your no claims, get a couple years older then get your 16V and do things to improve that for "moree speeed" :P That'll show ya mates then.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Rmachines on 11 March 2009, 08:23
I have a 1.4 with an AEX engine tucked up in my freinds farm shed that would eat your GTI's for breakfast  :wink:.... Yea its true!!  Running a volvo turbocharger, some bizare fuel system my friend helped put together and 3 head gaskets, pumps out a nice 2.3Bar but sadly if i was to put it up against a GTI by the time it has boosted the little 1.4 enough to overtake, the engine would be splatterd alover the road.  We only bodged the turbo with every intention of blowing it up but its just been tucked up ever since and still runs.

So moral of this story is,  dont bother turbocharging a N/A engine without doing everything properly, It will go fast, but not got long!  :grin:

This is what we did:
Turbocharger from Volvo 2.3L engine
custom made manifold with volvo plate welded on
Lots of bits of bent boost pipes and an intercooler off the top of a Shogun
Dump valve off my old Celica GT-Four  (wosshshshshs)
down pipe hashed and mashed off of the volvo/welded to the end of the golf pipe
one way valve for the throttle body vac pipe (kept poping pipes off)
three head gaskets, two of the thinest and one standard (works best apparently)
Bit of retard on the timing and diffrent spark plugs
A Bosch fuel rail and loom which i stayed well away from (i tend to destroy injection components  :grin:)

It took alot of time, far to much money thrown away and still its really not even safe to use without blowing up...  To do it properly you really need diffrent pistons, full overhaull, diffrent gearbox? (on smaller engines you do anyway)
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: DEANATRON on 11 March 2009, 09:36
Ah another post of a 17 year old wanting to go faster, in all honestly mate you won't get mch out of an 1.8 without spending at least a grand, then insurance will kill you. I've had a few mates with 1.8 mk4s and have got zausts airfeeds thinking itl improve there performance and it won't, truth is your lucky if you will get insured, just bite the bullet put up with a 1.8 at the end of the day there's always gonna be someone faster than you and to be fair a 1.8 at 17 ain't bad at all n man 
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: Josho on 11 March 2009, 09:54
Shady, strangely, you look a bit like my brothers friend in that pose, and your GF looks a bit like my sister, also called Hannah.
Title: Re: Moree speeed
Post by: DrewGTI on 11 March 2009, 20:23
Much better to wait and get a standard fast car then to mod a car to go fast.  :smiley:


you always find a bigger fish comes along with a faster car no matter what you drive.

sometimes faster gets you know where quicker anyway. . many times been in a van and watched people in front of me cut people up, undertake, take chances then come to the same junction as me. . i just look on and give them a nod.  :cool: