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Title: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 09 March 2009, 08:56

I've just purchased a Small Bumper MK2 GTi 16v over the weekend, and at the time, and as far as I knew and the previous owner told me, it was an 1800 16v.

I knew it had a replacement engine in 2003, which had 34,000 miles on it (seeming quite low for an 1800?). I found the bill for this and noticed it said "2.0 16v". I find it hard to believe that the previous owner didn't know this, but he didn't seem to mention it at all?

So I'm trying to insure it today, but I'm not sure what to insure it as, how do I tell what the engine is, are there any easy differentiations from the 1800? They seem to look pretty similar to my untrained eye?

I've been looking at pictures and it seems to look quite like this 2.0 16v (with the metal inlet pipe)

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss175/jay-man_01/golf4.jpg)

Also, I used to an 1800 16v a few years back, and I'm sure that the DOHC 16v writing wasn't painted blue as with my new one?

Sorry I don't have any pictures as I'm at work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated here! Thanks!

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 March 2009, 09:09

Looks like a KR to me.

But you need to find the engine number or a big fat 2.0 moulded into the block (around the back) to confirm.  Engine number's the only way to be sure though.

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: rubjonny on 09 March 2009, 11:17

could be an abf, i see it has the MK3 alternator. I can see what looks like a spare oil sensor hole on the oil filter housing, this also points to a 2.0 block but neither of these things are conclusive proof.

As DH says look for 2.0 cast on block or the engine code, this is found at the top of the block on a flat machined area between 3 & 4.

If you can see, check for a crank sensor on the front of the block, right at the bottom next to the gearbox behind the oil filter housing. another ABF givaway is if it has an alloy sump.

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: Wayne on 09 March 2009, 13:09

Engine number is the only way of telling, could be a KR (1.8), 9a or ABF 2.0

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 09 March 2009, 13:56

Thanks for your help guys.

When you say round the back by 3 and 4, what's the best way to see this? Get it up on axle stands and get underneath? Or can I do it from on top?

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: rubjonny on 09 March 2009, 14:30

sorry the 2.0 is cast on the back, engine code is on the front :)
if you look at the breather assembly, its just above that. not always readable though.  If you find a crank sensor then its definitly anm ABF lump, or at least a well modified late 2.0 8v MK3 lump  :grin:

edit: can just make out the crank sensor on this piccy, right at the bottom right:
(http://car.sc0rian.com/albums/Engine%20Install/Preping%20engine%20for%20car/1st%20july%20taking%20engine%20part/DSCF2382.JPG)

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 10 March 2009, 08:46

Apologies for thickness here, but which number do you mean, I thought it was number one, but then I thought, hang on that's on the head?

(http://www.waltonac.co.uk/Jon/engine.jpg)

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: Wayne on 10 March 2009, 09:07

2 and 3 are the numbers you need.

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 10 March 2009, 09:10

Excellent, thanks!

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: rubjonny on 10 March 2009, 09:19

no its non of the ones pictured  :grin:

the block code is on the flat area just above the block breather, on that pic its the hole just below and tro the left of 2, where the wire is running across

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 10 March 2009, 10:49

Hehe, ok, I think I get it now, so just to be sure, is it this bit:

(http://www.waltonac.co.uk/Jon/engine_1.jpg)

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: rubjonny on 10 March 2009, 12:14

yep thats the one!  can be a right mare to read it. i found a high powered torch held at an angle made it easier to make out the code, though if yours is a low milaer it might be ok.  however your block has been painted so it might be tricky to see!

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: Martz on 10 March 2009, 20:34

I reckon he has a 9a.

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 10 March 2009, 21:40

Good guess, it said 9A! Thanks for the directions!

What does this mean I have though? And what car did it come from?

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: rubjonny on 11 March 2009, 08:32

passat/corrado 2.0 16v :)

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 11 March 2009, 10:11

Excellent! Well that's a bit of a bonus!

Thanks for everybody's help on this, most appreciated!  :smiley:

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: JonL on 11 March 2009, 10:37

Oh, and how much power does it have, I can't seem to find a definitive answer? Is it 150bhp?

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: Llewellyn on 11 March 2009, 10:52

136 bhp in the passat and corrado IIRC

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 11 March 2009, 17:48

If it has kr cams then it will be running alot more than 136bhp.

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: Mew on 12 March 2009, 14:51

Quote from: JonL

Good guess, it said 9A! Thanks for the directions!

Excellent! Well that's a bit of a bonus!

Jurassic Park! :cool:

Title: Re: What Engine Have I Got?
Post by: danny_p on 13 March 2009, 23:33

as said 9A is 136 bhp 

but hardly anyone fits a std 9a  it'll more than likely at least have kr cams if not head and cams.

power  anything from  130 - 175    (  std 9a in need of tune  - spot on 9a / kr hybrid )