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General => General discussion => Topic started by: topher on 14 July 2004, 11:36
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taken from talk audio forums
http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=81013 (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=81013)
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/veh_inspec/vi_summary.htm (http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/veh_inspec/vi_summary.htm)
PLEASE everybody interested in being able to continue to engine swap, tube frame or significantly visually alter motor vehicles in the UK go to the DVLA web site and go through the nausea of completing thier online submission - also please request a copy of the consultation paper. Doesn't matter if you don't read it - they judge strength of public feeling on the number of them that the send out.
basically they are trying to screw anyone moddifying a car, and particularly those of us moddifying older cars (not allowing fitting of more modern components without having to re-register on a Q plate, having to go the SVA for your mods every time, etc.)
BTW kit means kit car built to original kit car spec not fitting a body kit.
Deadline is 19th July, they're sneaked this f*cker on us without any anouncement.
Ta.
EDIT: please copy the link and post it on any other suitable web sites. The consultation list they have for this excercise includes such bodies as "The Christian Road Safety League" and RoSPA and the Vehicle Scrap Dismantlers Association, and not anyone to do with modifying cars or the moddified vehicle industry - need as much support for this as possible.
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sh!t! >:( there goes my Beach Buggy project ideas!
Bugga! :( :'(
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This sounds like one of those crazy ideas dreamed up by a bureaucrat, but rather than complain and call them f*ckers, why don't you find out where your local MP has his next surgery and go give him a visit.
MPs will do anything for your vote, and especially the younger vote. Outline your valid point that the consultation period is too short, and then just for fun - write to all the car magazines.
Car magazines are always looking for decent editorial, so if you become "Angry of Huddersfield" they love it.
You could even start on online petition to get the consultation extended. There are plenty of people here who will sign it (I would), I imagine plenty of people on ClubGTI and all the chavs will (they have to).
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Thats terrible. Punish us like, but don't try and actually catch more car crims like eh??
One part refers to the point scoring system and mentions suspension. Does that imply that if you lower your car is has to be inspected??
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Before anyone starts aiming questions at me, just remember i didnt write any of that, all copy/pasted from another thread on the request of a mate. To be honest it doesn't affect me as far as i can see but thought you lot might like to have a browse :)
Chris.
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^soz Tophuh ;)
Bloomin sh*t innit. >:(
:-*
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no probs lass. i took a quick look and as usual its a lot of foaming and euphemisms... i think you're safe with lowering though ;)
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I don't have the receipt......so is it really lowered? ;) :D
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if you read through the content I am not sure of why there is a load of fuss. if you think you are going to have you car inspected and it given a Q reg just because you fitted some neon washer jets and a bad boy bonnet you are way off the mark!
this section, for example
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/veh_inspec/vi_radically.htm
is just commenting on the fact that in the past you got get a vehicle bodyshell, put whatever inside you like in terms of engine, suspension etc and it would still be named and registered as whatever the original shell was
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I best send off the forms a bit quick then saying it's now got the 20v in there! >:(
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I don't get this. Originally my car had a 1781cc engine with 4 cylinder's running on petrol. No change there then ???
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As we are now on this subject as you know the mk1 (a old T reg) has just been MOT's
Does anyone know the real MOT law on a 20v being in a mk1 and if it should have a cat now cause of the engine change?
I ask cause teh AA MOT place i.e Halfords MOT was the only place that could MOT it on a saturday afternoon but they range me up asked 100 questions and refused to do a MOT cause they said teh engine was from a 2001 car so it had to have a cat even though it is in a 1978 car!
Now both 2 local garages think it doesn't need a cat.
SO WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG I DON'T THINK THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR ON THIS
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From what i read on the dept. of transport site, the testing is based on the year of registration of the car, not the engine age. Pre-1992 cars don't have to pass the co2 testing whether you have a cat or not.
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MOT emission limits,
pre 1992 up to 3.5% CO allowed
1992 onwards up to 0.5% CO allowed
so any car registered before Aug 1992 will fall into the first catagory, regardless of what engine is fitted.
there is no way a car without a cat will make under 0.5% CO, so from Aug 1992 a cat is a legal requirement.
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So what sorta things do we have to E-mail to the site e-mail? They ask for oppinons, Do we say stuff like "the idea will not work" and stuff like that?
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I was told by my MOT'er that it was the car year, not the engine year that ruled if a CAT had to be fitted. so we're ok there Clare :)
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So what sorta things do we have to E-mail to the site e-mail? They ask for oppinons, Do we say stuff like "the idea will not work" and stuff like that?
if you can be bothered to.. theres an online response form (link to it is somewhere down the left hand side near the bottom). the questions seem to go on forever so i didnt bother.
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dvla are always sneeking sh!t in. all it does is punish the law abiding, the real crimals have and always will get away with it.
the last one compulsory off road notification or fines, i now have 6 sorns a year to fill in for vehicles which cannot be driven (one bike is in aprox 300 peices, one car is stripped)
the real crims still just print their own plates and register cars to false addresses so no inconvenience for them there then.
f*cking dictatorist government.
oh and according to teletext in a survey children from 10 to 18 want chatrooms banned as they dont feel safe, so we can probably expect to have chatr rooms and forums f*cked to death too.
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i don't feel safe in our chat room :o
can't see it being shut down though ;)
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i don't feel safe in our chat room :o
can't see it being shut down though ;)
lmao - thats cos its run by maniacs ;) :D
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who you calling a maniac :(
but just incase anyone has been F**cked over by there insurance lately if your car is written off in anyway unecomonical to repair to dangerous and you want to repair and put it back on the road you are now required to have it tested and re-registered by the dvla. i have been told to send Tax, V5 and mot to the dvla and then drive it to a test centre with a new mot done with 90 days of the inspection this is without road tax and log book and insurance had to be returned to the insurance company.
how do they expect me to get it to the inspection doubt many people have access to a trailer or tow truck. all this cause bumper lights and front o/s wing are damaged and the insurance company would rather write it off and pay out than pay for the repairs which so far not including mot and inspection by dvla has come to ?500.
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better learn to how to drive properly dean, u maniac!! :-*
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:P
reminds me i cleaned up that oil you left on the drive last week
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oh and according to teletext in a survey children from 10 to 18 want chatrooms banned as they dont feel safe, so we can probably expect to have chatr rooms and forums f*cked to death too.
Should i paint swasticas on my house and praise to hitler now? Or when Blair is re-ellected?
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MOT emission limits,
pre 1992 up to 3.5% CO allowed
1992 onwards up to 0.5% CO allowed
so any car registered before Aug 1992 will fall into the first catagory, regardless of what engine is fitted.
there is no way a car without a cat will make under 0.5% CO, so from Aug 1992 a cat is a legal requirement.
My car very nearly made it under 0.5% :-\ :-\