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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: twistedblack69 on 07 March 2009, 16:13
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Hey all, just thinking of getting/making a cold air feed to fit in the hole in the bumper like so:
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/MustaineJr89/Airfeed.jpg)
Was just thinking of getting some of that flexible corrogated metal tubing stuff, was wondering if anyone's done this or had any ideas on how to go from the tube to a square end kinda thing that'd fit in said hole
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Might have issues with water going into your airbox from there?
I'd fix it to the main grill personally, if at all :afro:
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Surely that would be as bad, if not worse, as the water would only have to travel across to the airfilter, whereas if it's low, it would have to travel vertically up the pipe, which is gonna be harder for it to do
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i.e. are you making a homemade induction kit? if so what filter are you using?
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Surely that would be as bad, if not worse, as the water would only have to travel across to the airfilter, whereas if it's low, it would have to travel vertically up the pipe, which is gonna be harder for it to do
Yeah but if it's low down its constantly getting spray from the road, especially if you go through puddles.
You'll probably be fine but it's just something I'd watch out for :)
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http://www.swgmotorsport.com/asps/ShowDetails.asp?id=183
would do the trick. :smiley:
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Cookiemonster, was planning on making a homemade one, but might just get one from Halfords or something. At the mo, have a K&N cone, but thinking of going drilled airbox with Pipercross panel filter
Jamrock...I did see that, I don't understand whether it sits behind the bumper or in front, and it's a bit pricey
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I wouldn't be too worried about water ingress. I ran my 306 like this for years,
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/26-2.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/25-2.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/24-1.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/23-1.jpg)
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LMFAO surely that defies the point of having an induction kit?? Wouldn't all the air have dissipated by the time it reaches the end of all the piping lol??
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LMFAO surely that defies the point of having an induction kit?? Wouldn't all the air have dissipated by the time it reaches the end of all the piping lol??
How on earth does air dissipate, dissipate into what, the air? What do you think the point of an induction kit is exactly?
All it is, is a fancy cone shaped air filter with slightly less restriction than a standard panel filter (and thats not always true). The common problem associated with induction kits is heat soak, hot air, blah blah blah.
Its forced induction for a pikey, forced the sense that 70 mph winds might be greater than the intake vaccum :grin: but more than likely not
Your just jealous :tongue:
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Haha that's epic!
Did you make it out of drain pipe?
:)
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Yeah, lol.
All in all it set me back about £20 for the filter, drain pipe and reducers.
Plumbing fittings are the shizznit for bodging.
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Yeah, lol.
All in all it set me back about £20 for the filter, drain pipe and reducers.
Plumbing fittings are the shizznit for bodging.
Haha that's ace!
Don't suppose you ever got to compare before and afters on a RR did you?
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Lmao - RR, not a chance, did you not see the engine is the same size as the battery on that car?
It was a toy little 1.4, probably about 3 bhp.
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Haha true true!
Either way, 10/10 for ingenuity! :afro:
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If you like the drainpipe induction kit - you'll like this (well if you're into Prosumer filming / mountain biking)
I do nightime mtb downhills but couldn't be bothered paying £150+ for a set of lights, so I built these bad boys out of 35mm plumbers fittings
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/mini-CIMG6884.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/mini-CIMG6885.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/mini-CIMG6887.jpg)
Its two 50W MR16's, wide and narrow beam. But recently, I've been doing nightclub event filming (http://www.onlineflvplayer.com/?video=http://www.thecircleclub.com/video/candypants.flv) so I had the choice of spending £400+ on proper continuous night illum for my XL1 or just cutting up some tuppawear tubs to make diffusion filters and a slight mod and bolting it into the boom mic holder ;)
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If you like the drainpipe induction kit - you'll like this (well if you're into Prosumer filming / mountain biking)
I do nightime mtb downhills but couldn't be bothered paying £150+ for a set of lights, so I built these bad boys out of 35mm plumbers fittings
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/mini-CIMG6884.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/mini-CIMG6885.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q171/blessani/mini-CIMG6887.jpg)
Its two 50W MR16's, wide and narrow beam. But recently, I've been doing nightclub event filming (http://www.onlineflvplayer.com/?video=http://www.thecircleclub.com/video/candypants.flv) so I had the choice of spending £400+ on proper continuous night illum for my XL1 or just cutting up some tuppawear tubs to make diffusion filters and a slight mod and bolting it into the boom mic holder ;)
Lets keep on topic ey lads ;)
But I had like 4 cold air feeds to my air filter on my 106 a few years back and that thing absolutely ripped, along with lots of other little bits. 1.1 but eate most things up to 1.6 :) Did actually knob and escort in that thing, and i mean a Ford Escort before anyone gets the wong idea!
So imo, keep it tidy but have as big and as many tubes you can get.
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Booooo.
IMO, I really doubt any cold air feeds are going to do anything for you - you'd be better off sticking with the wing air feed with the std box - that way its not drawing in any 'hot air' from the engine bay.
But TBH, when you're travelling at 30mph+ the volume of air going through the engine bay is so vast that any cold air feed is just negated anyway.
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well this is my cold air feed
it came from a little known aussie racer whos first bike was a ZXR750RR and he was helped out by Kawasaki to sort his bike
he finished his racing career last year on a Ducati in world superbikes
looks like a piece of poo but with the carbs set up for it another 12 BHP
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p18/rsturbophil/bike%20pics/ZXR750airbox.jpg)
cost a blooooody fortune but it is a genuine part from Troy Bayless :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:
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(http://www.karzpec.com/intake%20systems/viper%20induction%20kit/Viper%20Induction%20Kit.jpg)
The likes of one of these however might make a difference.
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(http://www.karzpec.com/intake%20systems/viper%20induction%20kit/Viper%20Induction%20Kit.jpg)
The likes of one of these however might make a difference.
they work
really well , a mates calibra turbo has one on and it gave 10 BHP on the dyno
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who makes them and how much?
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Pipercross Viper :)
(http://www.emotionautostyling.com/pipercross%20viper_technical.jpg)
The nuts
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It should be for £239 :smiley: :laugh:
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they used to be £299 :shocked:
for a bloody aid filter
really good though
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For piping "green cotton" are particularly good, however is it really worth it for the small distance Im wondering? :undecided:
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http://www.bmcairfilters.com/infoCDA.asp
That's what you want...they are really good, nice sound and proven performance gain. On a mk4 at least.
(Not sure if they would work on a mk2, dont see why not i guess)
Tho personally i think induction kits are far more hassle then its worth on a mk2, esp if its just a sh!t one from halfrauds or something.
I'd go panel filter, either k&N or Green Cotton (these are meant to be esp good on VW's) and if its noise you're after just drill some holes in the side of the box...wing side that is
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I've just re read the first page - see you have already thought of the panel filter route :smiley:
I wouldnt worry about water ingress, last car i had I put a cold air feed in exactly the same place and didnt ever have any probs.
Only thing i wouldnt do is go driving through any deep puddles lol
To make your own ducting you could use something like this:
(http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/images//airductingl/id255-80.jpg)
Get them at merlin motorsports, then just run up some piping
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If you find a montego or maestro in scrappy, they use a plastic air intake that will fit straight in the slats on grill, or would push down inside wing where air normally runs into your airbox, an then pipe it straight into air box, bang on i think
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Gloves, that's exactly what I was looking for...though the whole "puddles" thing is making me a bit iffy.
Beechy...might have to look into that, thanx guy
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Gloves, that's exactly what I was looking for...though the whole "puddles" thing is making me a bit iffy.
Beechy...might have to look into that, thanx guy
What i meant to say in my last post was "i wouldnt worry" - have just edited it :grin:
Water spray will never get all the way up the pipe, the fact that there are bends etc in it stop it from even getting as far as the airbox.
I dont have any pics of my last motor but i had a cold air intake in exactly the same place as you're planning to put one now. Was on for well over a year in rainy north east Scotland without a single prob.
By deep puddles I mean, I wouldnt submerge the whole intake, ie a flooded road or the likes, but should you ever come across that you could just stop and pull the feed off before venturing through :smiley:
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the 1 of the montego an maestro looks just like the 1 that gloves has shown, i used 2 have 1 on my own monty turbo years ago, i 4got all about it myself, i might go an ave a look at stickin it on my 16v, should slip straight in grille i think :wink:
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spray the inside of the pipe with white grease :)
we used to do it when we were racing and it stops the water and dirt getting to the filter
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spray the inside of the pipe with white grease :)
we used to do it when we were racing and it stops the water and dirt getting to the filter
Pretty good tip that...
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I've noticed the power your car put out at JKM the other day. Did they give any indication for the missing bhp or was it running ok?
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Nah they said it was running fine. A lil smokey, but they said that was due to it running slightly rich. I am quite stumped on where the power's gone, though I'm thinking I've gained a couple back now I've put a cold air feed on, because where the filter cone was right behind the headlights, there wasn't really any direct air feed onto it, also the gearbox is going, engine isn't in great condition as a whole, but I was quite miffed that I was down 10bhp
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This is how im doing it witht he track car.
£5 from b&q
The open space around the pipe will be funnelled in so that air can only go in the metal pipe and the other end will be funneled under the air filter or it will funnel over the end of the filter.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/hellboy660/DSC02062.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/hellboy660/DSC02064.jpg)
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That's what I was thinking, thought for some reason it might not be road legal
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That's what I was thinking, thought for some reason it might not be road legal
As long as you have main and dipped beams in the main Headlights I cant think why it would not be.
Sod it Im doing it and my car is going on the road as well. My Mot place will pass it :P