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Title: 1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: gti69 on 01 July 2003, 13:02

Hope you lot can help!

I have got some Koni adjustables on order for my beast and i want to replace the suspension top mounts whilst the suspension is off.

I have heard that G60 mounts can be fitted, i have had a look on the German and Sweedish car suppliers website and have found these two!

45709A STRUT TOP MOUNTING G2 G60 4/90 >7/91 11.25
45709AC STRUT TOP MOUNTING G2 G60 4/90 >7/91 3.41

Can anybody shed some light on this for me, or does anybody know where else i could get some from? I live in Nottingham if it's any help!

Thanks chaps.

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: tinman on 01 July 2003, 20:08

I don't know how true this is, but i thought someone said that all Mk2's have the same top mounts. From what I can tell - they don't do anything other than house a ball race that allows you to steer.

Can this be true?

Regards,
Tin

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: richandhazel on 01 July 2003, 20:13

I was wondering if there was any benefit to fitting any other mounts........its not like they do a lot really.......is it?

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: gti69 on 01 July 2003, 22:35

Thanks for the advice guys.

I shall not be buying from GSF then!

I had seen (i think!) somewhere that the G60 mounts were a lot stiffer and could take more abuse than the standard 8v mounts but i could be mistaken.

Thanks

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: gti69 on 01 July 2003, 23:25

Thanks golfvr6!

My car has got it's mot in three weeks and the only thing i think it could fail on is the suspension, it is well past it's best! It's really just an excuse to fit some new suspension and whilst it is in the process i just want to make sure everything is done properly otherwise i may have to get my mountain bike dusted off :o

I was also going to fit the relevent (suspension) bushes, are these worthwhile?

Thanks

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: gti69 on 01 July 2003, 23:26

Whoops, i meant to put, relevant poly bushes!

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: richandhazel on 02 July 2003, 11:26

I've had no problems with GSF parts..........been using them since they started up.

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: gti69 on 02 July 2003, 12:36

I don't know what to do now as GSF sell the part i need for about ?12 i think and after looking on the TSR website they sell them for ?50 without vat! ???

I usually get my parts from Euro Car Parts but they don't sell the G60 bits i need.

I know i am probabaly better off going to TSR but surely there can't be that much difference between the two!

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: richandhazel on 02 July 2003, 18:14

I think you'll find that GSF and eurocarparts are much the same.........hey for ?12 isn't it worth the gamble?

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: gti69 on 02 July 2003, 20:16

I have finally ordered some, i ordered them for TSR. I thought it better to be safe than sorry, and seeing as my car is having the suspension fitted on Saturday ;D. They are genuine VAG items from TSR so thats why they were so pricey!

Thanks for all the help.

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: modulater on 03 July 2003, 21:43

DO NOT buy German and Swedish top mounts, I replaced mine about 6 months ago when I fitted my Eibach springs and now the car is really skittish and theres a tight spot in the steering, I removed the plastic covers from the top mounts and theres a huge gap, the rubber has sunk and the mount has no play in it, also the bearing is tight which is playing havoc on the steering. I will be replacing them this week with original parts.
As for the strut top mounts, there are 2 part numbers listed on ETKA, I think one is for normal golfs and the other is for cars like the Rallye and the Country, I assume the rubber is a slightly harder compound to cope with the extra stresses placed on the car from having 4 wheel drive. I'll dig deeper and post what I find.

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: modulater on 03 July 2003, 21:52

I thought I had better add that the reason I fitted Eibach springs was to replace the BOGE kit I had fitted about a year before which was also from German and Swedish, this kit had been nothing but trouble and now resides in my shed, I would sell it on but I don't want to lumber some other poor sod with it, I know what your saying about the parts being cheap but it really is a false economy as you will have to replace them again and again.
I used to use German and Swedish all the time when I had my first car about 11 years ago but I have found that since doing french car parts they have got greedy and are cutting corners on the quality of parts, I want to retain the build quailty of my car and so original parts make the most sense for me in the long run.

Title: Re:1991 8v Gti Top Suspension Mounts
Post by: modulater on 05 July 2003, 21:23

On ETKA the following becomes clear.

strut top mounting.    191 412 329   normal models.

strut top mounting     357 412 341   PG engine number.

The PG engine code is the code of the super charger engine fitted to Rallye and G60.

So going by this it would indicate that the higher performing golfs have harder compound rubber for the strut top mounts. Also its interesting to note that the spring top cap that holds the top of the spring and which the mount sits on also is different on the PG engined vehicles so maybe this also is made of stronger metal.