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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: No Golf Clubs at all on 07 March 2009, 10:53
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Just got a text from Arnold Clark saying I am due a service. My last service was 25/03/08 at 26140 miles. Mileage now 34088, car is on long life servicing I think and there is no indicator showing service due. There's a sticker in my car that states next service due at 46139 miles or by 25/03/09.
I reckon whilst it's not technically due, some of you will state that it is advisable?
Or is ac just drumming up business?
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Your car will tell you when it's due, sit in the car, put seatbelt on, turn ignition on the ignition and hold down the mileage reset button for a few seconds until the service display comes up. It will tell you how many days and miles until due
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I suspect they have your car down as being on "time and distance" service.
btw why are you running your car on LL service schedule?
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:-( bugger did the mileage reset thing.....says Service Now :-(
Pants poo and widdle :-(
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I suspect they have your car down as being on "time and distance" service.
btw why are you running your car on LL service schedule?
Maybe because some drivers don't drive like they are on the Nürburgring all the time. :wink:
Agree that the dealer may have you down as TaD but it could just be They have flagged a brake fluid service (every 2 years)
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Dont listen to winrya there about checking when needs service. What you did there causes the service now to be displayed, because its the start of one of the ways to cancel service light. Check you last bill from AC, if it says you had longlife service done then its not due till next year but if time&distance then you are due now.
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I thinks it's on long life service intervals...I was hoping to get to 40000 before another service then I would get the dsg service done at that time. How do I verify what service regime it's on?
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Check your service book, on the front page there will be a data sticker for your exact car, that should show LL or T&D, then check your last serv bill, if LL phone back ac and tell them so to update there records.
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Last service stated..... Carried out second long life service..... Will call them Monday.
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Dont listen to winrya there about checking when needs service. What you did there causes the service now to be displayed, because its the start of one of the ways to cancel service light.
No it doesn't. The owners manual in the book pack clearly states how to do the 'manual' call up of the service due info on the cars computer.
Check you last bill from AC, if it says you had longlife service done then its not due till next year but if time&distance then you are due now.
Agreed, although you need to be a little careful, because many dealers still don't know the difference between longlife OILS and the longlife SERVICE REGIME. Been there, done that, and had the arguement with the aftersales manager! :angry:
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I suspect they have your car down as being on "time and distance" service.
btw why are you running your car on LL service schedule?
Maybe because some drivers don't drive like they are on the Nürburgring all the time. :wink:
You don't need to be a budding Lewis Hamilton. To be on the LongLife regime, then you must keep your engine revs below 3000rpms for the vast majority of the time - easy in a turbo diesel, but not so easy in the GTI. Which is why I always state that the GTI (along with all petrol engines) are NOT suitable for the LL regime.
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Check your service book, on the front page there will be a data sticker for your exact car, that should show LL or T&D,
Wrong. The data sticker only states weather the car is 'capable' of using the LL regime. But the actual regime used on an individual car is soley down to how the VW stealer codes the cars own computer (initially, on the PDI, and thereafter on every service).
then check your last serv bill, if LL phone back ac and tell them so to update there records.
And that will do what exactly? Arnold Clark, just like every VAG dealer in the world, will know weather the car is capable of being on LL regime.
The very last thing you need to be doing is somehow getting them to change the service due, by artificially extending the duration. If the cars computer states it needs a service now, then it needs it NOW.
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Last service stated..... Carried out second long life service..... Will call them Monday.
Maybe they incorrectly coded the next service due details in the computer - or maybe not. But if the computer says do it now - then now it really must be.
But what hasn't been addressed in this thread is how you drive your car? Because even if they did correctly code your car, and use the proper LL oil - then by it pinging for another service after just 12 months, that clearly indicates you are not suitable for the LL regime. So get it changed to T&D, and have a cheaper 'oil change' service, and save some money in the process.
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Look T_T. This guy manipulated the dash panel insert to show service need now. But before he pressed that button his dpi wasnt showing service now, if it was then it would be due now.
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Also T_T if you want to be pedantic, all vw's from 2006 have come set to long life
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Dont listen to winrya there about checking when needs service. What you did there causes the service now to be displayed, because its the start of one of the ways to cancel service light. Check you last bill from AC, if it says you had longlife service done then its not due till next year but if time&distance then you are due now.
Mine did this too, came up saying Service Now, but never comes up saying service now normally when i turn it on, seems odd, as surely it should tell you everytime its turned on?
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Exactly
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Ok ok all very interesting this debate..... I can't say one way or the other about the merits of t&d vs ll.
Clearly more servicing has to be welcomed. However for the record I don't drive hard, in fact most of the time I'd be as well with a sh!troen c1.
It's on LL just now, it's only done circa 9000 miles since the last service.
I will ask a cost but last time the robbin barstewards took me for £310!!!!
So I take it that my holding down the mileage button gave a false result? If on ll then why did it show service due?
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Look T_T. This guy manipulated the dash panel insert to show service need now. But before he pressed that button his dpi wasnt showing service now, if it was then it would be due now.
NO HE DID NOT!!! :angry:
RTFM - idiot!
The ONLY thing which can be done by the driver is either:
- a/ call up the current 'Service Interval Display' (SID) info (ie, the detail of when the computer states the car needs a service)
- b/ reset the SID to start counting down for a fresh 'Time and Distance' servicing - which would then give 9,700 miles or 356 days till next service
So HTF do either of those two above actions equate to NGCAA somehow 'manipulating' his SID to actually demand a service now? It is IMPOSSIBLE.
And your final comment about his SID not showing service now before he pressed the button - well that is another simple answer. The 'Service Now' warning does NOT stay on all the time. When the SID calculates that a service is due, then 'Service Now' pings up when you first turn on the ignition, stays on for about two seconds, then completely disappears again - to enable the dash panel insert to display its' other 'normal' information, such as odometer, trip odo, gears (for the DSG), outside temperature. It is ONLY 'Priority 1' warnings which are permanently displayed.
Please stop posting such blatant crap on this site!
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Also T_T if you want to be pedantic, all vw's from 2006 have come set to long life
FFS - that is just a blatant LIE.
They do not, nor ever have 'come set to LongLife'!
Let me quote the FACTS. From model year 2000, most petrol VAG cars were 'enabled' for the LongLife service REGIME. That means, amongst other things, they were factory filled with LongLife ENGINE OIL. For diesels, it was m/y 2001 (due to the late approval of the 506.01 specs).
To this day, that is still the case (actually - all engines, for all markets (including ALL export markets), weather they are capable of LongLife or not, are now factory filled with LongLife OILS).
The actual SERVICE REGIME is ONLY set by the dealer. This is initially done on the Pre-Delivery Inspection (PDI), and is then continued with every subsequent service. However, IF an informed customer (well, it aint gonna be the stealers, because they know fcuk all about the very specific requirements of the LL regime) asks for T&D service, then T&D service is set.
Your comment about all 2006 onwards VW cars set to LongLife is just pure fantasy! My wifes model year 2007 was set to T&D. My own 2007 RS4 was set to T&D. And there are many, MANY other GTI owners on this very site who have elected to have the T&D regime.
I bet you work for a dub stealer! :rolleyes:
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Dont listen to winrya there about checking when needs service. What you did there causes the service now to be displayed, because its the start of one of the ways to cancel service light. Check you last bill from AC, if it says you had longlife service done then its not due till next year but if time&distance then you are due now.
Mine did this too, came up saying Service Now, but never comes up saying service now normally when i turn it on, seems odd, as surely it should tell you everytime its turned on?
There was a known 'bug' in the SID computer for a limited timescale of VWs (it didn't affect Audis), and this was known to give erratic operation of the SID.
And don't forget, if you happen to press (even accidentally :wink:) any of the buttons for the trip computer (either on the MFSW or on the end/bottom of the wiper stalk) - then any non-Priority 1 warnings will be immediately cancelled.
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Ok ok all very interesting this debate..... I can't say one way or the other about the merits of t&d vs ll.
Then read this very helpful and informative thread: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=65779
Clearly more servicing has to be welcomed. However for the record I don't drive hard, in fact most of the time I'd be as well with a sh!troen c1.
You don't just need to drive it hard. If you do short journeys, then that can also disqualify you from LL regime. Read that link above
It's on LL just now, it's only done circa 9000 miles since the last service.
Well, that clearly indicates that the LL regime is NOT suitable - due to your driving 'pattern'.
But just to clarify that yours isn't one of the cars which had the bug in the SID software, ask your stealer to confirm that the latest version of software is installed. BTW, what model year is your car (the 10th digit of the VIN will tell you), because, and don't hold me to ransome over this comment - but I think it was around m/y2005 which had the faulty SID software. All cars after that have the correct SID software.
I will ask a cost but last time the robbin barstewards took me for £310!!!!
I think all VW stealers (and Audi too) still do a price match. Get some other written quotes from other garages - even try you local Halfrauds or Nationwide Autocentre (state you need a written quote for your business accounts or sommat similar :wink:) - make sure the quote is broken down into labour and parts (just in case there is any doubt that they are not genuine parts prices) - then go back to AC waving the cheapest quote under their noses. Buy the actual parts yourself (5 litres of oil, sump plug, oil filter, pollen filter, and one litre of brake fluid), and ask for a discount. Even if they only give you 5%, it is better than paying full whack, and you can be sure they use the genuine LL oils.
Oh, and you may be right about high prices by AC - look at this thread: http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79964
So I take it that my holding down the mileage button gave a false result? If on ll then why did it show service due?
Absolutely NOT. That is just pure BS. Read your owners manual.
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TT youre bang on, I need to change my schedule to T&D.
I plan to keep my car for at least the next 3 years anyway, so I want it in tip top condition.
I contacted AC and they agreed that this prompt was an oversight.
I have decided to delay the service until September or so, then the car will be 4 years old and will also be due the DSG service.
At that point I will move to T&D and get the lot done in a one-er and thereby killing to stones with one bird as it were.
Had my brakes checked recently and they are like new.
Delaying until September also gives me a chance to squirrel away some cash to pay for a major service and the dsg service.
Currently they want £240 for major service, and I am waiting on a price for the DSG service on top.....will modify the post when I hear for info. I expect a similar amount.
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My dealer called me too. Car is a year old and has done 7500 miles. However as the oil light just popped on and required a quick top up, and I've got free 3 year servicing anyway, I figure I might as well book it in and let them change the oil and wot not.
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So I take it that my holding down the mileage button gave a false result? If on ll then why did it show service due?
Absolutely NOT. That is just pure BS. Read your owners manual.
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Cheers TT! its clearly in the owners manual and what ive been using for 3 years. 1st year mine was on LL and i used that method then and from then its been on TT and has always worked. For example mine says service in 343 miles or in 46 days. Thats a year since the last service and I'm on 9,657 miles
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As a little of an aside, I recently bought my GTI from Gilder VW in Sheffield and they had put it on T&D while it was in their hands.
I suspect this was due to the lower cost of the oil though rather than an comment on the relative merits of the two service regimes.
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TT youre bang on, I need to change my schedule to T&D.
:afro: :wink: :smiley:
I plan to keep my car for at least the next 3 years anyway, so I want it in tip top condition.
Exactly. So you know T&D makes more sense. :wink:
I contacted AC and they agreed that this prompt was an oversight.
Or do I read sommat between the lines - like you beat them into submission! :laugh: :laugh:
I have decided to delay the service until September or so, then the car will be 4 years old and will also be due the DSG service.
At that point I will move to T&D and get the lot done in a one-er and thereby killing to stones with one bird as it were.
Hmmmmm . . . that is another six months away! I do understand your logic of wanting to get the services tied in to the cars 'birthdays', particularly for the 'time-only' operations such as the BFC - but six months after the SID has pinged is just too long IMHO. So if you did wait till September, how long will it be from your previous service?
Currently they want £240 for major service, and I am waiting on a price for the DSG service on top.....will modify the post when I hear for info. I expect a similar amount.
Just make sure they only charge for 5.5 litres of DSG fluid - because some sneaky stealers are charging for the full 'factory-fill' 7.2 litres.
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My dealer called me too. Car is a year old and has done 7500 miles.
So the T&D regime would be best suited to your personal conditions too.
However as the oil light just popped on and required a quick top up,
Yikes :shocked: - don't you know where your bonnet release and dipstick are? :cry: You really should not rely on the oil warning light - you really need to be pulling the dipstick every week, or at the very latest, every month (with your limited mileage). :wink:
and I've got free 3 year servicing anyway, I figure I might as well book it in and let them change the oil and wot not.
Interesting . . . Usually, these 'free 3 year servicing' deals usually only use the LongLife regime, which usually means just one service in that three year period. They are such a con, IMVHO.
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As a little of an aside, I recently bought my GTI from Gilder VW in Sheffield and they had put it on T&D while it was in their hands.
I suspect this was due to the lower cost of the oil though rather than an comment on the relative merits of the two service regimes.
You may be right on the oil costs. However, from January 2009, ALL VW (and other VAG) stealers must now use the more expensive LongLife3 oils, even if the car is on T&D servicing. So that cost of oil difference will now be eliminated. :wink:
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Sooooooooo
Is ravydav the new forum TROLL - because he ain't been back to counter any of my comments?