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Title: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: jeynesey on 07 March 2009, 00:22
Hi all, having (provisionally) got myself some new wheels Iv'e been looking into lowering my car...
Now im not exactly an expert so what would people advice? Ive seen a few ppl have used eibach springs, but what do i NEED to do the job? Is it just a straight swap of springs and thats it or is there more to it?
Does it cost a lot more to have the height adjustable?
How much am I looking at price wise?

Sorry for the noob post  :embarassed: lol

N.B I was only going to drop about 20mm as I still need to use the back seats every now and again.

Thanks,
Nick.
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: Gloves88 on 07 March 2009, 01:25
Its always best to replace both shocks and springs at the same time. Just replacing springs can cause early failure of the standard shocks and bad handling.

I'm pretty sure you can also get away with a 40mm drop with out having probs with a load.

I'm assuming its for a mk4, not that clued up on them but sure someone else will be along to give you more info
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: dan_apps on 07 March 2009, 09:33
reeeet,
dependant on purse strings and if its just for 'the look' then you can get a lowering spring kit, which is only springs and go onto your existing dampeners etc, usually around £150 off the interwebz!
next up is the spring and shocks kit which looks similar to your existing setup but improves handling and lowers the car usually about 20 - 30mm. GOOD kits are usually about 5 - 600 sheets for your car.
the last option is coilovers where as the name suggests the spring coils tightly around the strut, these are usually fully adjustable height and dampener wise and give the car alot more 'feel' than the other kits mention, used on track and street! price wise looking at a couple more hundred on top of the above price for a good set.

HTH
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: boneybradley on 07 March 2009, 11:28
You need a guide for that..... so click on this link that should explain a bit more http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=68845.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=68845.0) I made it for us mk3 boy's but will give the low down on options
(I do know lowering the mk4 more than 30/35mm (I think?) can give driveshaft/a.r.b issues and sometimes need some new special drop links?)
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: JC on 07 March 2009, 12:10
mk4 section, loads of lowered supetankers in there  :grin:
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: dan_apps on 07 March 2009, 12:12
mk4 section, loads of lowered supetankers in there  :grin:

:laugh:
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: Thom89 on 07 March 2009, 14:07
mk4 section, loads of lowered supetankers in there  :grin:

Ive never ever been in the Mk4 section, what's it like.....
Tom
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: dan_apps on 07 March 2009, 17:23

Ive never ever been in the Mk4 section, what's it like.....
Tom

i hear there is some kind on initiation :tongue:

Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: kells on 07 March 2009, 17:27
20mm is not enough....not by a long chalk - may aswell not bother

(i use my mk 3 as my daily/ and as my events pool car, its dropped 70mm, and has no issues,  for example - tonight its carrying 3 people and 3 full record box's to a illegal do about 35  miles away from where i live..)

id say drop it at least 35 -40mm
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: boneybradley on 07 March 2009, 17:28
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/boneybradley/somethings.jpg)

 :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: sharpie on 07 March 2009, 17:30
kells remember mk4s have ghey problems like arbs fouling when lowered past a certain level.
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: richw911 on 07 March 2009, 17:33
kells remember mk4s have ghey problems like arbs fouling when lowered past a certain level.

Its 40mm  :smiley:
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: kells on 07 March 2009, 17:42
kells remember mk4s have ghey problems like arbs fouling when lowered past a certain level.

ahh yeah i remember something about that now.. that is a bit sh!te aint it
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: sharpie on 07 March 2009, 17:43
kells remember mk4s have ghey problems like arbs fouling when lowered past a certain level.

ahh yeah i remember something about that now.. that is a bit sh!te aint it

on the up side, at least mk3 owners have a car to look down upon.
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: richw911 on 07 March 2009, 17:44
kells remember mk4s have ghey problems like arbs fouling when lowered past a certain level.

ahh yeah i remember something about that now.. that is a bit sh!te aint it

on the up side, at least mk3 owners have a car to look down upon.

Thats true  :laugh:
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: jeynesey on 07 March 2009, 22:02
Thanksfor all the advice, keep it coming if you can think of anything else or recomend a product?

Cheers all
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: jeynesey on 07 March 2009, 22:05
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/boneybradley/somethings.jpg)

 :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin:

Your pic looks diff to mine???

.......   :laugh:

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/jeynesey/Golf-Evolution2.jpg)
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: davero on 07 March 2009, 23:34
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/boneybradley/somethings.jpg)

 :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: boneybradley on 08 March 2009, 01:15

(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/jeynesey/Golf-Evolution2.jpg)

Your looks photoshopped just look at the ride heights  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: jeynesey on 09 March 2009, 10:22
Any good or cheap tat?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-MK4-Coilover-lowering-springs-shock-kit-150104_W0QQitemZ290294781144QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item290294781144&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: Damian @ DPM on 09 March 2009, 10:31
40mm is usually the safe norm for the Golf 4, it gives a good drop without creating any problems. 50mm and lower is where you start getting problems with the standard ARB rubbing on the driveshaft and also may start wheel rubbing issues.

Something like the JOM or Koni STR.T kits are good choices if you're not wanting to spend too much...

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/jom-40mm-kit-golf-4-18-18t-20-19tdi-23-v5-0797-p-1186.html

http://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/koni-40mm-strt-kit-golf-4-18-18t-20-19tdi-0797-p-2284.html

Hope this helps.

Damian @ DPM
Title: Re: A bit clueless on lowering my car...
Post by: jeynesey on 09 March 2009, 12:37
Thanks for the advice DPM!