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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Dan34 on 24 February 2009, 21:24

Title: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Dan34 on 24 February 2009, 21:24

Well my brake lines are on there way out and am tempted to get some braided ones. Im just not sure if my brakes will need the 4 or 6 hose kit. Ive got a gti 8v digi with 239mm brakes.

Dan

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Organisys on 24 February 2009, 21:39

If you are going to bother doing it, get the 6 line as this includes the flexible pieces over the rear beam.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Dan34 on 24 February 2009, 21:41

Quote from: Organisys on 24 February 2009, 21:39

If you are going to bother doing it, get the 6 line as this includes the flexible pieces over the rear beam.

Cheers for you help  :smiley:

and its not that i want to do it, but it needs doing and thought that i may aswell uprate them to stainless numbers so no more rusting

Dan

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Ben Lessani on 24 February 2009, 22:29

Aren't the braided lines just to replace the rubber unions - not the whole length? If the main lines are shot - I wouldn't have thought there wasn't a stainless equiv - just plain 'ole copper.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: mattneck(Beavis) on 24 February 2009, 22:37

Quote from: Ben Lessani on 24 February 2009, 22:29

Aren't the braided lines just to replace the rubber unions - not the whole length? If the main lines are shot - I wouldn't have thought there wasn't a stainless equiv - just plain 'ole copper.

copper, or better yet kunifer/cupro-nickel.. vw factory lines are steel.. thus why they rustings

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Dan34 on 24 February 2009, 22:49

Quote from: Ben Lessani on 24 February 2009, 22:29

Aren't the braided lines just to replace the rubber unions - not the whole length? If the main lines are shot - I wouldn't have thought there wasn't a stainless equiv - just plain 'ole copper.

im not too sure but its ones near the calipers ive been told that they are on there way out and aint alot of life left in them

Dan

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Diamond Hell on 25 February 2009, 08:01

If you're going as far as you say you are then while you're at it you might as well move up to 256 or 280mm front brakes and the 16V master cylinder.

You'll get much stronger brakes with less fade resistance.

There's a brake 101 that I put together a while ago here (http://diamondhell.com/content/view/32/30/) which might be useful.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Dan34 on 25 February 2009, 08:57

Cheers DH might look into changing the hole caliper etc looks like it could be a cheaper option.

Thanks

Dan

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Ben Lessani on 25 February 2009, 09:08

If you uprate your calipers - the braided unions are still recommended, it stops the spongyness associated with the rubber unions expanding slightly when the system pressurises.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: k4ith on 25 February 2009, 21:51

Quote from: Diamond Hell on 25 February 2009, 08:01

If you're going as far as you say you are then while you're at it you might as well move up to 256 or 280mm front brakes and the 16V master cylinder.

You'll get much stronger brakes with less fade resistance.

There's a brake 101 that I put together a while ago here (http://diamondhell.com/content/view/32/30/) which might be useful.

good bit of info there Diamond, to clarify
I have bought the 256mm brakes will they bolt right onto my existing 8v set up without req new hubs ? ball joints?

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Ben Lessani on 25 February 2009, 22:11

256 won't go onto 239. On the 239's the caliper carrier is part of the hub, whereas on the 256+280's the caliper carrier is removable.

For 256/280's, you need new hubs, calipers and carriers, IIRC the ball joints can differ between 17/18mm - someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: k4ith on 25 February 2009, 22:22

Cheers Ben,
I had thought that and had been looking for a 4 stud hub set up but everyone for sale on ed38 and here never reply when they post there ads and the scrappies are no joy either.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Ben Lessani on 25 February 2009, 22:29

Don't look for the mainstream sources, you'll end up paying over the odds. Jump down to a few scrapyards and get them off a Passat/Toledo/Ibiza/MK3 Golf.

Where in Scotland are you based? There's a fella in Bonnybridge who breaks VWs and carries a lot of bits. I've got his number if you're nearby.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: k4ith on 25 February 2009, 22:35

Is that the guy goes by the name lowbay? I am close ish to there. Phoned a brakers in renfrew whos was meant to have a few mk2 in but no joy.

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: sidecarphil on 26 February 2009, 20:47

ALSO you will need new brake flexis

the 16V and G60 ones are differant to the 8V ones

as i found out  :huh: :huh:

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: Ben Lessani on 26 February 2009, 21:19

Quote from: k4ith on 25 February 2009, 22:35

Is that the guy goes by the name lowbay? I am close ish to there. Phoned a brakers in renfrew whos was meant to have a few mk2 in but no joy.

Yeah, Ritchy Lowbay - 07788893483. He's not always in the place and goes at perculiar hours - its also burried in an industrial estate

Title: Re: Braided Brake Lines
Post by: rubjonny on 27 February 2009, 10:34

Quote from: sidecarphil on 26 February 2009, 20:47

ALSO you will need new brake flexis

the 16V and G60 ones are differant to the 8V ones

as i found out  :huh: :huh:

If you remove the short length of metal pipe from the calipers normal 8v ones will fit, as I found out :P
edit: at least for 256 calipers...