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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: stealthwolf on 21 February 2009, 18:18

Title: ED30 killer
Post by: stealthwolf on 21 February 2009, 18:18
Sounds silly but here goes:

The first car I fell in love with (after Knight Rider) was the mk4 golf gti. Even though I have an ED30, I still look at the MKIV with lust.

Soo......if I bought an anni 1.8T GTI, could I ever mod it to beat (or match) the ED30 on the flat as well as on the bends? Or is it just a pipe dream?
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: Rhyso on 21 February 2009, 18:20
Sounds silly but here goes:

The first car I fell in love with (after Knight Rider) was the mk4 golf gti. Even though I have an ED30, I still look at the MKIV with lust.

Soo......if I bought an anni 1.8T GTI, could I ever mod it to beat (or match) the ED30 on the flat as well as on the bends? Or is it just a pipe dream?

being brutally honest its a pipe dream unless you have thousands of pounds to spend

you need a KO4 conversion or possibly use a BAM engine to start with
suspension modifications
possibly a limited slip diff

and a few others i probably haven't thought of
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: Steve_PD on 21 February 2009, 18:21
If you spent enough money on it anythings possible.
V6 4mo supercharged or R32 TT  :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: topher on 21 February 2009, 18:33
if you want a genuine ED30 killer.. forget the k04 ideas and go straight for the IHI vf22 or garrett gt28rs (or gt30 if you don't mind a bit of lag before your head gets punched into the headrest :evil: )

jabbasport or jbs are probably the people to speak to if you just want to drop off the car as a pussycat and pick it back up as a beast.. but you can do it much much cheaper if you're prepared to source the parts yourself and find a smaller trusted garage to put it all together for you
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: damo_ b on 21 February 2009, 18:39
why do people us the vf22 had one on my old scooby for a couple of weeks and had lots of lag
the vf23 was much better hardly any lag and strong through to the red line
also a good alternative is the td05 20g good for over 400 bhp on the impreza and not to much lag
have a read here
http://www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16307.html (http://www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk/16307.html)
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: ben1.8T on 21 February 2009, 20:16
Awesome stage 3 upgrade should do it 340bhp  :cool:
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: ABOO on 21 February 2009, 22:13
No matter what I lusted after when I was younger, if I had an ED 30, I wouldn't be looking at any MK4 with lustful eyes!!Even the R32 :wink:
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: redevo1 on 22 February 2009, 00:58
Just in a straight line performnace shouldn't take much as far as I can work out. A mk4 GTI weights around 1230kgs so running remap/tip etc 220bhp a mk4 BHP PER TON is 180.85bhp/t
Where as a mk5 ED30 weights 1330kgs and 230bhp works out around 173 BHP PER TON  :smiley:
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: RnP on 22 February 2009, 09:11
Just in a straight line performnace shouldn't take much as far as I can work out. A mk4 GTI weights around 1230kgs so running remap/tip etc 220bhp a mk4 BHP PER TON is 180.85bhp/t
Where as a mk5 ED30 weights 1330kgs and 230bhp works out around 173 BHP PER TON  :smiley:

some good figures there,

anyone know what power standard internals will cope with, on an agu lets say lol
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: dubcruiser on 22 February 2009, 09:28
The cost of all the above, you may as well keep the ED30 and buy a Mk4 and have both.... And with the current prices you will probably get change!!!  :wink:
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: T_J_G on 22 February 2009, 09:46
Just in a straight line performnace shouldn't take much as far as I can work out. A mk4 GTI weights around 1230kgs so running remap/tip etc 220bhp a mk4 BHP PER TON is 180.85bhp/t
Where as a mk5 ED30 weights 1330kgs and 230bhp works out around 173 BHP PER TON  :smiley:

some good figures there,

anyone know what power standard internals will cope with, on an agu lets say lol

About 300BHP I think (don't quote me though)

Keep the ED30 and buy a V6 mk4 ;)
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: Jkctr on 22 February 2009, 11:05
Just in a straight line performnace shouldn't take much as far as I can work out. A mk4 GTI weights around 1230kgs so running remap/tip etc 220bhp a mk4 BHP PER TON is 180.85bhp/t
Where as a mk5 ED30 weights 1330kgs and 230bhp works out around 173 BHP PER TON  :smiley:

But the ed30 remaps to over 300bhp! Also i have yet to see any RR figures of 220bhp mk4's (with just a remap)

So a 300bhp ed30 will have a bhp/ton of 229.53 (or more than an M3)

The amount it would cost would not be worth it imo. I would get an S3 and map that as it will be much better than the Mk4 in performance terms http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/872968.htm
Title: Re: ED30 killer
Post by: stealthwolf on 22 February 2009, 12:53
The cost of all the above, you may as well keep the ED30 and buy a Mk4 and have both

Lol I'm not gonna sell the ED30 at any time soon. Just wanted a mk4 as well!

With the ED30 I can't do any dash mods since it's still in warranty. But with a mk4, I could make my own KITT!  :evil: