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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: hainesz on 20 February 2009, 17:25
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the fcuking little bastard$ trashed my drivers doorlock and the car can now be opened with any key or even a butter knife... lucky they didnt get me stereo system the alarm must of gone off... now i am left with the problem of my car not being safe and easy to open... can any one tell me if mk4 rear door handles will fit my mk4 3 door (so it wont have any locks??? also has anyone got any who isnt far from me... hemel hempstead M1 Jct 8???
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Get the lock replaced and you can get a delock kit which cover the key whole but they'll need spraying.
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i feel for you mate, where was it parked ??
hope the gutless twits get caught so you wrap a brick round there heads
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bastards! im sure i read somewhere that de-locking was illegal and you have to have a lock on the drivers door, or maybe that was de-handling? hmm not sure
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it was right outside my house and it happened about 9.30pm on a busy road and no-one saw nothing... does any-one know if the rear handles will fit??? ill be waiting tonight with the trusty baseball bat
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fatherless sons! im sure i read somewhere that de-locking was illegal and you have to have a lock on the drivers door, or maybe that was de-handling? hmm not sure
yeah that de-handling thats illegal
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had mine done last week new lock from vag 42. plus vat 5 mins to fit :shocked:
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Just be careful, if the battery goes flat, then you are stuffed. Altough I now know a trusty way of getting in.
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You shouldn't need a lock barrel.
Providing your handle isn't damaged you can de lock it. It involves taking the lock barrel ou and replacing with a dummy. Behind this there is also an extremely important metal disc which needs to be inserted to prevent it happening again. The cap's just cover all this which can be painted.
It is a very poor design flaw which cn only be fixed by the above method. The de lock kits can be bought from ebay for about £14 IIRC.
Did it to mine before something happened, and was amazed at how poor the design was. You can effectively disarm the alarm, open the door and wind the windows down with a screwdriver... :shocked:
Won't go into detail on a public forum as it could get into the wrong hands!
P.S if the battery goes flat you can enter through the rear hatch (pardon the expression) via the key and lock, nothing to worry about with that lock , nice and secure!
Sam
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You shouldn't need a lock barrel.
Providing your handle isn't damaged you can de lock it. It involves taking the lock barrel ou and replacing with a dummy. Behind this there is also an extremely important metal disc which needs to be inserted to prevent it happening again. The cap's just cover all this which can be painted.
It is a very poor design flaw which cn only be fixed by the above method. The de lock kits can be bought from ebay for about £14 IIRC.
Did it to mine before something happened, and was amazed at how poor the design was. You can effectively disarm the alarm, open the door and wind the windows down with a screwdriver... :shocked:
Won't go into detail on a public forum as it could get into the wrong hands!
P.S if the battery goes flat you can enter through the rear hatch (pardon the expression) via the key and lock, nothing to worry about with that lock , nice and secure!
Sam
yeah just ordered the delock kit from ebay for £14...only problem being is my car is not safe untill theyve been delivered and fitted...are they hard to fit???...any links on how 2 guides on here with pictures???
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You shouldn't need a lock barrel.
Providing your handle isn't damaged you can de lock it. It involves taking the lock barrel ou and replacing with a dummy. Behind this there is also an extremely important metal disc which needs to be inserted to prevent it happening again. The cap's just cover all this which can be painted.
It is a very poor design flaw which cn only be fixed by the above method. The de lock kits can be bought from ebay for about £14 IIRC.
Did it to mine before something happened, and was amazed at how poor the design was. You can effectively disarm the alarm, open the door and wind the windows down with a screwdriver... :shocked:
Won't go into detail on a public forum as it could get into the wrong hands!
P.S if the battery goes flat you can enter through the rear hatch (pardon the expression) via the key and lock, nothing to worry about with that lock , nice and secure!
Sam
yeah just ordered the delock kit from ebay for £14...only problem being is my car is not safe untill theyve been delivered and fitted...are they hard to fit???...any links on how 2 guides on here with pictures???
http://www.r32oc.com/tutorials-guides/4301-my-mk4-delock-guide.html
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Take your stereo out and valubles untill it's fixed. They can only get in, but not start the car as the immobilser will still work.
Failing that, have you got a comfy sleeping bag? :grin:
Sam
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You shouldn't need a lock barrel.
Providing your handle isn't damaged you can de lock it. It involves taking the lock barrel ou and replacing with a dummy. Behind this there is also an extremely important metal disc which needs to be inserted to prevent it happening again. The cap's just cover all this which can be painted.
It is a very poor design flaw which cn only be fixed by the above method. The de lock kits can be bought from ebay for about £14 IIRC.
Did it to mine before something happened, and was amazed at how poor the design was. You can effectively disarm the alarm, open the door and wind the windows down with a screwdriver... :shocked:
Won't go into detail on a public forum as it could get into the wrong hands!
P.S if the battery goes flat you can enter through the rear hatch (pardon the expression) via the key and lock, nothing to worry about with that lock , nice and secure!
Sam
yeah just ordered the delock kit from ebay for £14...only problem being is my car is not safe untill theyve been delivered and fitted...are they hard to fit???...any links on how 2 guides on here with pictures???
http://www.r32oc.com/tutorials-guides/4301-my-mk4-delock-guide.html
nice 1 richw911
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Take your stereo out and valubles untill it's fixed. They can only get in, but not start the car as the immobilser will still work.
Failing that, have you got a comfy sleeping bag? :grin:
Sam
lmfao sambo... im gonna be glued to the window 2nite with me trusty baseball bat to hand!!!
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this might cheer u up
http://www.stickdeath.com/2003auto.html
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this might cheer u up
http://www.stickdeath.com/2003auto.html
lmfao...they are so funny...how the fcuk did you come across that???
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About that guide - Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too have it, right?
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About that guide - Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too have it, right?
True :smiley:
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I might have to do this soon, dont want some chav getting in :angry:
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I might have to do this soon, dont want some chav getting in :angry:
Hmmm i might do my drivers side too :undecided:
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About that guide - Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too have it, right?
True :smiley:
NOT TRUE!
Belive me the metal disc is what makes it secure. Without it you are only prentending to have no locks.I can't emphasise this enough. You NEED the metal disc. If some chump wants to try there luck on your car without the disc they WILL get in if they know what there doing.
Sorry to SHOUT but i can't make it clear enough!!!! :laugh:
Sam
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About that guide - Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too have it, right?
True :smiley:
NOT TRUE!
Belive me the metal disc is what makes it secure. Without it you are only prentending to have no locks.I can't emphasise this enough. You NEED the metal disc. If some chump wants to try there luck on your car without the disc they WILL get in if they know what there doing.
Sorry to SHOUT but i can't make it clear enough!!!! :laugh:
Sam
The question was " Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too "
You dont have to fit it!!!
As you say without it it not as secure but you can do it you still have the metal part of the delock in place
I fitted mine and would defo recommend fitting it. :smiley:
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About that guide - Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too have it, right?
True :smiley:
NOT TRUE!
Belive me the metal disc is what makes it secure. Without it you are only prentending to have no locks.I can't emphasise this enough. You NEED the metal disc. If some chump wants to try there luck on your car without the disc they WILL get in if they know what there doing.
Sorry to SHOUT but i can't make it clear enough!!!! :laugh:
Sam
The question was " Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too "
You dont have to fit it!!!
As you say without it it not as secure but you can do it you still have the metal part of the delock in place
I fitted mine and would defo recommend fitting it. :smiley:
But the pikey scum bag's don't use the lock barrel to gain entry mate so your no better off than with a lock barrel in and a de-lock cap over the top (if it fitted but you get my point)
If your unsure how they get in then PM me and i will explain in detail mate rather than broadcast it over the net :nerd:
Cheers, Sam
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About that guide - Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too have it, right?
True :smiley:
NOT TRUE!
Belive me the metal disc is what makes it secure. Without it you are only prentending to have no locks.I can't emphasise this enough. You NEED the metal disc. If some chump wants to try there luck on your car without the disc they WILL get in if they know what there doing.
Sorry to SHOUT but i can't make it clear enough!!!! :laugh:
Sam
The question was " Surely you don't need the little disk, it's jusy safer too "
You dont have to fit it!!!
As you say without it it not as secure but you can do it you still have the metal part of the delock in place
I fitted mine and would defo recommend fitting it. :smiley:
But the pikey scum bag's don't use the lock barrel to gain entry mate so your no better off than with a lock barrel in and a de-lock cap over the top (if it fitted but you get my point)
If your unsure how they get in then PM me and i will explain in detail mate rather than broadcast it over the net :nerd:
Cheers, Sam
I not 100% how thay get in - however all i was pointing out is if you dont want to fit the disc you dont have to.
As you quite rightly say the car wont be secure without it. :smiley:
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I think the point being stressed is if you de-lock it, but don't fit the disc, it still LOOKS delocked, so will put off the majority of car thieves, as they'd have to take a gamble just to find out if you did fit the disc or not.
Much easier for them to just move on to a Golf with no de-locking kit on it.
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Ahh cool I get you, a bit like saying you don't have to use all 5 wheel bolts when putting new alloy's on! :grin:
I'd rather not risk it and just put the disc in :wink:
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I've got a de-locking kit ready to do, I just lost the disc!! :grin:
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Ahh cool I get you, a bit like saying you don't have to use all 5 wheel bolts when putting new alloy's on! :grin:
I'd rather not risk it and just put the disc in :wink:
Dont get me wrong i agree with you that you should fit it - gos without saying :afro:
I take it saalro is thinking - about removing it in the future? :undecided:
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I've got a de-locking kit ready to do, I just lost the disc!! :grin:
You can get new ones bob :wink:
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where from?
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im gonna fit it all properly... might aswell do it right... ive put a camera on my car tonight and blocked it in with the missisus car and taken me parcel shelf out and covered up me sub... and left a message on the dashboard sayin " ive taken my stereo out you thieving scum... i will get you, and trust me i will break every bone in your hands, and once im satisfied i will break every bone in your feet you T.W.O.C.ing little pricks...
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where from?
stealers should have them ask for "metaldisc" for the de-lock kit they should know what you mean if its like my local stealer i have to show them what i want :laugh: :laugh:
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This happened to me a few weeks ago. They damaged part of my door handle too but after some filler and being sanded down, it'll be good as new after it's been sprayed. The de-lock kit seems the most sensible option.
Although they caused more damage to my car than yours. When they broke the lock they must have pulled the handle so hard it caused a small dent next to it in the door. Not too bad though. What can you do so there's no point being annoyed.
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will be good when u get the delock kit fitted
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Ahh cool I get you, a bit like saying you don't have to use all 5 wheel bolts when putting new alloy's on! :grin:
I'd rather not risk it and just put the disc in :wink:
Dont get me wrong i agree with you that you should fit it - gos without saying :afro:
I take it saalro is thinking - about removing it in the future? :undecided:
I'm liking the look of it a lot :cool:
What do you do if the remote locking doesn't work for some reason and let's say the boot was delocked also! And then to add to the problem when you delocked your doors you put this metal circle in to cover the only entrance in to the car lol. I guess a drill straight through the fake barrel and the the circle disk and then a screw driver to open it... And now i'm even more confused because i could swear when you open the door with a key it still activates remote locking and it's opened electrically!?
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Hi,
Theres no need to de-lock the boot so it's all good (unless your silly and do it anyway) :huh:
Sam
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Sambo did you spray your delock caps yourself?
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No mate had them done whilst i had other bit's eing done in the bodyshop. Just as well really i'm not to good with a rattle can :rolleyes:
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No mate had them done whilst i had other bit's eing done in the bodyshop. Just as well really i'm not to good with a rattle can :rolleyes:
Ah ok you know of a good bodyshop round here then? :laugh:
I need a few bits doing.
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How much money you got :tongue:
Lloyds refinisher's in Plymouth is supposed to be one of the best in the south west, also one of the most expensive.
I got mine done through a mate, got the bonnet notch welded and smoothed plus resprayed, grill sprayed and fitted, sideskirt repaired after the OEM jack went straight through it :shocked: roof resprayed, wing's blended in and mirror covers done... or and the rear bumper re painted! Got it all done for £450!!! :grin: Was supposed to be £550 but he had problems with the front bumper and it wasn't (still isn't) perfect so knocked £100 off :laugh:
Gonna wait until i decide on a FMIC which may require me butchering it a bit then get it in to have a top job on it!
TBH i'd just go by other peoples recommendations around your way mate. Don't have to pay silly money for a good job. Other than the bumper I was pleased with mine.
Sam
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How much money you got :tongue:
Lloyds refinisher's in Plymouth is supposed to be one of the best in the south west, also one of the most expensive.
I got mine done through a mate, got the bonnet notch welded and smoothed plus resprayed, grill sprayed and fitted, sideskirt repaired after the OEM jack went straight through it :shocked: roof resprayed, wing's blended in and mirror covers done... or and the rear bumper re painted! Got it all done for £450!!! :grin: Was supposed to be £550 but he had problems with the front bumper and it wasn't (still isn't) perfect so knocked £100 off :laugh:
Gonna wait until i decide on a FMIC which may require me butchering it a bit then get it in to have a top job on it!
TBH i'd just go by other peoples recommendations around your way mate. Don't have to pay silly money for a good job. Other than the bumper I was pleased with mine.
Sam
Ok Thanks for that :afro: Might get them to give me a quote.
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No worries :wink: