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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: JamieGTi on 18 February 2009, 15:07

Title: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: JamieGTi on 18 February 2009, 15:07
I've provisonally sold my mk4 and next I think i'm looking into getting... another mk4  :smiley:

I've spotted this on pistonheads and its far from standard tuning wise.

its a 130pd gt tdi with a hybrid turbo

251bhp
380 n/m torque
45+ mpg
£62 a year tax

(http://images.pistonheads.com/aimg/898/898854-1.jpg)

I don't want to show many images of the car but I tihnk this is going to be an absolute weapon and worth going from petrol to diesel.

What you guys think?
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: ben1.8T on 18 February 2009, 15:10
Thats had alot of work done to it bet that will be rapid. Rhyso will be pleased that someones crossing over to the dark side  :grin:
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: T_J_G on 18 February 2009, 15:10
TBh though do you know it's all done properly and is a reliable set up?
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: Rhyso on 18 February 2009, 15:13
well it ain't £62 a year to tax for starters - its £120  :wink:

as Tim said you want to ask who has done the work, conversion, what uprated clutch is fitted etc etc
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: T_J_G on 18 February 2009, 15:14
You also want to check its driveable. It's ok haing high power but if you can't get it onto the road it's no good.
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: Stevo-Anni on 18 February 2009, 15:17
like T_J_G says Anyone could get high bhp figures but how long it will last is another story, make sure you get full details of what has been done
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: ben1.8T on 18 February 2009, 15:21
Yeah good point boys looking at what its had done it looks like mainly a turbo, intercooler and exhaust and if so cant see how its gained 120bhp?  :huh:
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: T_J_G on 18 February 2009, 15:29
I bet it spits out driveshafts ;)
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: gjroe78 on 18 February 2009, 15:37
That car has been on there before !
Is it silver ?
Doe's it look pretty standard exterior wise ???
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: JamieGTi on 18 February 2009, 16:19
That car has been on there before !
Is it silver ?
Doe's it look pretty standard exterior wise ???

Erm yep...  :undecided:

He's got receipts for over £20,000 worth of work.

I'll include abit more of the ad

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"Now for the engine, it's a std 1.9 130 PD TDI unit with a special Hybrid VNT RB Turbocharger. It has a large alloy uprated front mounted intercooler, K&N Filtration system, smoothed out airbox unit, uprated MAF, large bore turbo down pipe, large bore full Stainless MILTEK twin pipe system. Samco intercooler pipe work and main hard turbo pipes. It has uprated gas shockers with sports lowering springs, new discs, new suspension bushes all round last year including the rear subframe main bushes. It has new top and bottom mounts, drop links and bottom arms. Front subframe bushes are nylatron replacements. A/C has just been regased and the car has just had a new sintered paddle clutch fitted.

Recently dynod on a Dyno Dynamics it gave 241 BHP/380lbs ft of torque, it gave 251 BHP on another dyno – Graphs to prove.

The power and drivability comes from the hard work and research that has gone into the cars mapping and set up which has taken 3 years to fine tune.


250 PDTDI ENGINE DONE 90,000 MILES
6 SPEED GEARBOX
HYBRID VNT TURBO
MAPPED ECU
ALLOY FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER
K&N FILTER
MODIFIED AIRBOX
MODDED MAF
SYNTERD CLUTCH
UPRATED SUSPENSION BUSHES
NEW BUSHES/BEARINGS ALL ROUND
STAINLESS EXHAUST RIGHT THROUGH
STAINLESS TURBO DOWN PIPE
UPRATED PIPEWORK
UPGRADED TURBO PIPES
SERVICED EVERY 2,500 MILES
4 x NEARLY NEW TYRES



DYNO PRINT OUTS

This car has loads 20+

Attached is an early power run and shows the BHP at the flywheel. (Notice the 170MPH speed – Car is geared to do 177MPH given enough BHP to drag it along !!)




NO EXPENSE SPARED AS IT WENT THROUGH THE COMPANY

UNIQUE CAR

FULLY ROAD DRIVABLE AS DAY TO DAY TRANSPORT "
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: gjroe78 on 18 February 2009, 16:27
yeah mate that was on there ealy last year cos i had a quick look.
£20,000 is a lot of money to blow and then sell it for under £7000(i guess ?) seems a bit dodgy to me ???
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: JamieGTi on 18 February 2009, 16:30
yeah mate that was on there ealy last year cos i had a quick look.
£20,000 is a lot of money to blow and then sell it for under £7000(i guess ?) seems a bit dodgy to me ???

Yeah seems dodgy I must admit, what would you guys recommend? Taking down an expert? Running it on vag com before buying it?

I'll give the guy an e-mail and ask if he would mind me doing those and also a drive of it before purchase.
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: dai-cymru on 18 February 2009, 16:41
yeah mate that was on there ealy last year cos i had a quick look.
£20,000 is a lot of money to blow and then sell it for under £7000(i guess ?) seems a bit dodgy to me ???

Yeah seems dodgy I must admit, what would you guys recommend? Taking down an expert? Running it on vag com before buying it?

I'll give the guy an e-mail and ask if he would mind me doing those and also a drive of it before purchase.

any modded car looses value, would defo recommend getting someone who can have a good look over it even if you stump up for a rac/aa check
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: gjroe78 on 18 February 2009, 17:02
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any modded car looses value, would defo recommend getting someone who can have a good look over it even if you stump up for a rac/aa check
yep i know that my evo was £34,000(with the ralliart extras) and i spent £16,000 on it(AP Racing brakes, new intercooler,de cat exhaust, Work Meister wheels, 2k stereo system etc......) and sold it for £19,000  :shocked: (chassis was slightly twisted(after sum silly bint pulled a u-turn on a dual carriage way) and wanted to tune it up more but was advised to get rid )

It just seems a bit excessive on a tdi(on top of the cost of the car)
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: Kerrse on 18 February 2009, 17:07
I quite like my PD150 to 250-270BHP but not a chance i wil ever spend £20k on my car doing it lol
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: Steve_PD on 18 February 2009, 17:16
I got a price list from "the derv doctor" for turbo upgrades;

PD 150

Phase 1
ECU Re-map and Panel Filter, this is the most popular up-grade, this provides upto 45 bhp and 50-60 ft-lb increase. Power is smooth throughout the rev range with no torque spikes at low RPM.
ECU Re-Map:- £325 plus VAT,
Panel Filter:- £40 plus VAT
Option Milltek Exhaust system. This gives improved throttle response and an extra 5-10 bhp.
Milltek Down Pipe:- £124.10 Plus VAT, Cat-back System:- £270.91 Plus VAT

Phase 2
As Phase 1, plus an larger Garrett GT series hybrid turbocharger (As used by VW Motorsport)  and a Sachs up-rated clutch. Plus our custom phase 2 ECU re-map. This will provide 220-235 bhp and 330-350 ft-lb of torque!

New Garrett Hybrid Turbo :- £975 Plus VAT and £140 plus VAT fitting (Exchange Units available)
Sachs Race Engineering Clutch:- £416.94 Plus VAT and Fitting
ECU Re-Map:- £395 plus VAT,
Panel Filter:- £40 plus VAT
Milltek Down Pipe:- £124.10 Plus VAT,
Cat-back System:- £270.91 Plus VAT

Phase 4
As Phase 3 , plus ERL water injection system, enlarged  injector assemble, modified inlet manifold and a custom re-map and a Helix Clutch and flywheel assemble. Phase 4 can provide up to 245 BHP
New Garrett Hybrid Turbo :- £975 Plus VAT and £140 plus VAT fitting (Exchange Units available)
Helix Clutch and flywheel assemble:- £710 Plus VAT and Fitting
ERL water injection system and water tank £495 Plus VAT fitted.
ECU Re-Map:- £395 plus VAT,
Panel Filter:- £40 plus VAT
Milltek Down Pipe:- £124.10 Plus VAT,
Cat-back System:- £270.91 Plus VAT

Phase 5 Prices on application,
Up to 265 bhp

 :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Petrol to Derv....
Post by: Kerrse on 18 February 2009, 17:19
265 sounds nice but i would have to start robbing banks i think  :grin: