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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 15:05

Title: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 15:05

do i need to remove the timing belt cover to get my rocker cover off?
I can only see three bolts, two that are shared with the rocker cover and one at the front of the cover, low down, by what i think is the alternator belt?

or is it possible to prise it off, without un doing it? dont want to snap anything.

halfway through this job. help would be great.

thanks

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: danny_p on 14 February 2009, 15:20

my phscic poweres arn't working today, what engine is it

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 15:24

haha sorry. 1.8 gti 1984 8v

I have just noticed the cover is in two parts.

If i undo the large allen key, in the the upper cover, is the danger it will mess about with the tensioner?

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: danny_p on 14 February 2009, 15:28

you may have to unbolt the cam belt cover  if the rocker cover is bolted ontop of it,   undoing allen head  on upper cover won't affect the timeing belt or it's tensioner

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 15:30

brilliant

cheers

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 16:04

ok, removed the rocker cover bolts, and a rubber plug next to allen key in upper part of the timing cover.

however, the large allen key keeps turning to a point and then doesnt get any loser?

i am sure it must have something to do with the rubber plug i removed?

haynes mentions retaining clips? where abouts are these?

thanks

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: sidecarphil on 14 February 2009, 16:19

i suspect you have just loosened your timing belt tensioner !!!!

oops

think the upper timing belt cover just un clips off

i would take this off check the timing belt is tight before you start it !!!!!!

other wise it will slip and damage the engine

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 16:33

FFS! thats what i didnt want to do!

I have tightened it right back up. should that be ok?

It doesnt seem to budge, until that was loosened.

got some pics to clarify stuff

these bolts in red, are undone. but the cover wont budge.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/EdPryce/Image058.jpg)

haynes and bently say remove the rubber plug to get to allen key and "retaining clips" shown here

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/EdPryce/Image061.jpg)

I have removed the rubber plug covering the clips but have no idea how to undo them as i cant see into them due to the angle.

circled here is what i un did and did up again. the arrow points to the clips.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/EdPryce/Image047.jpg)

Really dont want to take this to a garage for such a simple job.

how does it unclip?

thanks

ed

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: danny_p on 14 February 2009, 17:14

tensioner is held on with a nut and it's behind the cover

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: danny_p on 14 February 2009, 17:15

will go check piccys i has on photobucket

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 17:18

thanks, mine arent too clear.

 in the hole under the rubber plug there is an allen key, that is slowly undoing. massive ball ache with the alternator belt on. But undoing that and the allen key i have circled should get this cover off? cant believe how long this is taking me!

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: danny_p on 14 February 2009, 17:20

meh cant find any clear piccys,     once the bung is out and the two 10mm nuts off teh top pritty sure it lifts off.     the later  covers  are held on with clips

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: sidecarphil on 14 February 2009, 17:23

the timing belt cover is differant to my digi one

i cant make out what has been undone ???

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 17:25

cheers, i am only doing this by feel. which isnt making it much fun at all, off to buy a rachet i reckon.

once this f**king thing is off, how important is it that i put it  back on ?

well not feeling putting it back unless it is totally necessary.

phil - i've undone one of the allen key bolts beneath the bung. and the allen key that is circled. it has like a plastic surround and rubber washer beneath it.

Ed

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: sidecarphil on 14 February 2009, 17:43

i would put it back on

saves the timing belt if a stone fires up from the ground

i suspect you have removed a rubber bung and undone an allen screw from the tensioner

BUT i may be wrong as my car is a digifant not K jet

how far inside was the allen bolt ??

if it is the tensioner the body needs turning then the bolt tightening to tension the belt , just tightening the bolt back up may not work as the tensioner as it could have moved and then loosened

i just cant see very well on your pictures

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 18:38

see below

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 19:08

thanks so far everyone.

feeling like giving in and taking it to a garage, as i cant afford to loose days to pratting about with something simple.

this is what i have undone.

It was under the bung on the timing belt cover.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/EdPryce/Image063.jpg)

the penny is for scale.

the allen key circled below. (6mm) is just turning and not getting any looser.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c48/EdPryce/Image047.jpg)

should this unscrew all of the way out?

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: danny_p on 14 February 2009, 19:29

the bolt  is the lower  fixing for the alternator iirc

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: Benrevs on 14 February 2009, 19:34

Tis indeed, that defo doesnt need to come off.   On the side facing the chassis leg, there should be the two clips.  If all else fails, break it.  Just make sure you dont drop bits of plastic down the timing belt cover. Ben

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 14 February 2009, 20:13

wank, back in that goes then,

apparently mine doesnt have clips as its from 1984?

do you know why that circled allen key in the pic above, isnt unscrewing any further?

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: danny_p on 14 February 2009, 23:12

have you tryed giveing it a pry with a screwdriver ?

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 15 February 2009, 02:51

yeah i gave it a quick go with no sign of it budging.

it just turns and doesnt get any looser. this should be do able without removing the alternator belt shouldnt it? the case is sort of pushing against it, but i cant see how that would stop the thread unwinding.

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: rubjonny on 15 February 2009, 11:10

I think this bolt may stay in the belt cover when undone, due to the rubber bung?  Its been a while since I took off one o them metal covers.  but once that bolt is undone and the 2 nuts are off, the belt cover should come right off.  It will fight you though as its a tight fit!

Title: Re: timing belt cover
Post by: edpryce on 15 February 2009, 14:42

i think the alternator belt is preventing me from pulling the plug out of whatever it screws into, meaning i cant lift the cover up