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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: 993turbo on 12 February 2009, 00:35
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Hi
I think my Engine / Gear mounts are shot. The car is a standard 90' Golf GTI G60
-Which mounts to buy?
-Ive heard that usually the front engine mount and the gear box mount go first, not the ''rear engine mounts''? Any comments on this?
- Are there 3 mounts in total (Engine front and rear / and 1 on the gearbox)?
-tips / hints / links to places where I can buy some mounts at a good price....?
Cheers... :-)
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3 mounts in total
1 rear engine
1 gearbox
1 frount mount
frount mount is common fail , gearbox mounts aslo go quite often and both easy fix. g60 rear engine mount is most expensive and most involved to change but not to bad. but is most long lived
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Cheers. Ive put in an order for a front engine mount and a gearbox mount. Ive also ordered the top mounts for the shock struts up front... Hope this will cure my little ''cluncking'' problem.
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Cheers. Ive put in an order for a front engine mount and a gearbox mount. Ive also ordered the top mounts for the shock struts up front... Hope this will cure my little ''cluncking'' problem.
Your clunking problem will almost definately be the front mount. Easy to change. 1 hour should do it. I have just bought all three mounts for my 60. Will fit them when I take the engine out for an extensive service.
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I had a clunking due to a broken gearbox mount causing the leg that supports the box, that bit that comes up and over, to constantly bang on the underside of teh chassis leg in the ibiza.. 1.3 gearbox mount is solid rubber and about £7 odd from memory
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Great stuff. I have ordered all the mounts and will replace them.... Finger crossed for a significant improvement....
:smiley:
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now would be the ideal time for a bbm style solid front mount.
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now would be the ideal time for a bbm style solid front mount.
Ive already ordered. Solid it is, but I doubt its bbm....
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i put a solid front mount when i fitted my G60, it hasnt seen too much of the open road yet so i cant comment, i have heard mixed opinions. some says its better to fit a solid front mount to stop engine movement and then helps if they is a 4 branch manifold fitted.
and then some say it makes the car rattle and vibrate, and the bolts in the mount can even shake loose?!
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The one on my G' is great. Little bit of extra rattle but really not much, and makes the car feel far nicer and smoother. Mines basically identical to the bbm one you get from gwerks, but without the branding on it. Never had any problems with bolts coming loose and i do tend to drive it like i stole it.
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I don't agree with solid mounts. The original is supposed to absorb the shocks. If a solid one is in there, then the shock absorbing is done by something else that is not designed for it. That could lead to premature wear or a failure of a component. And that component could be the engine itself.
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I don't agree with solid mounts. The original is supposed to absorb the shocks. If a solid one is in there, then the shock absorbing is done by something else that is not designed for it. That could lead to premature wear or a failure of a component. And that component could be the engine itself.
I think suspension plays a big part here. If you running a 40mm drop with the solid mount it shouldnt be too bad, but if you got hard coilovers wound all the way down... could be an issue! :smiley:
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I see where your coming from, but its not like the other two mounts are solid. Theres still a degree of flex in the rear and gearbox mounts, plus theres probably a negligable amount of twist in the cross member (which sits on flexi rubber bushes remember) .
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Lets agree that a new mount is better than a shot mount, solid - bbm - hydraulic or whatever it is. The one I have now is SHOT!
My car is not lowered. Totally standard.
For me, they money is not they issue, if the mount cost 12 or 27 quid wont break the bank, for me what is important is that it is fixed. I have other cars, where parts are extremely expensive and tolerances for aftermarket parts are very small.... To put things in a perspective, the whole price of my G60 equals the price of the obligatory annual service on my Ferrari......................
As soon as I have my new mounts fitted I will chime in with my ''2 cents'' of experience and opinion :-)
:-)
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solid frount mount often leads to the bracket snaping if drive hard and other mounts are poor
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I don't agree with solid mounts. The original is supposed to absorb the shocks. If a solid one is in there, then the shock absorbing is done by something else that is not designed for it. That could lead to premature wear or a failure of a component. And that component could be the engine itself.
I think suspension plays a big part here. If you running a 40mm drop with the solid mount it shouldnt be too bad, but if you got hard coilovers wound all the way down... could be an issue! :smiley:
Agree alpine mike on this one. My mate james had a solid front in his abf conversion, plus coilovers = lots of vibration at idle. I have an ABF + solid mount (same as his, we both bought bbm) normal -40mm kit, = no vibration of any note at idle :)
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I will mount a solid mount on a std. car, so I will see how it goes. The car does not see much use, but I guess if it makes the bracket break I will have to cross that bridge wwhen I get there. Im happy to take the chance. :smiley:
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as long as the other two mounts are good shoule be ok, the frount crossmember is actualy mounted on rubber bushes anyway so still a bit of flex. you don't want to be abel to rock the engine
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i'm off the my local stealers for a new front G60 one anr a 1.3 rear and gearbox ones :)
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noooo.. g60 rear 1.3 front and gearbox :grin:
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no
G60 front
1.3 rear and gearbox
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1.3 rear = big flexible doughnut
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=785
g60 rear = big solid piece of rubber bolt direct to subframe not bolt thru middle to bracket to subframe
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=607
g60 front mount = hydro
1.3 front mount = solid rubber
1.3 gearbox = solid rubber to
have set myself.. danny fitted them to his syncro as well.. rubjonny will back me up :grin:
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=91381.msg765608#msg765608
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now i AM confused !!!!!
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g60 rear engine mount - beefy solid rubber item botls straight to the subframe on the 2 angled mounts instead of the U shape bracket and doughnut with bolt through the middle that rocks back and forth and side to side.. much tougher much more sturdy
1.3 mk2 front mount is solid rubber again tighter more sturdy than hydro and 1.3 gearbox mount solid rubber.. have all 3 from work.. i work in parts.. believe my word as ive bought and sold these items a few times now :grin:
*toots horn* :laugh:
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give me the part numbers pls :)
*toots horn * :smug: :smug:
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(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k234/mattneck/DSC00088.jpg)
F: 191-199-279E
R: 535-199-262
G: 191-199-381A
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wooow hooo
muchas gratsiarse fella
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wooow hooo
muchas gratsiarse greasyarse fella :evil:
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could you please post up the costs of the 3 mounts from vw please.
or will the pattern (beru?) parts from avs be ok?
paul
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The one on my G' is great. Little bit of extra rattle but really not much, and makes the car feel far nicer and smoother. Mines basically identical to the bbm one you get from gwerks, but without the branding on it. Never had any problems with bolts coming loose and i do tend to drive it like i stole it.
Where did you get it from my good man?
:)
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a guy off clubgti did a job lot iirc (it was about 3 years ago now), they come up on ebay sometimes too.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-Mk2-VR6-front-solid-engine-mount_W0QQitemZ190286013686QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item190286013686&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1121%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
^^^ thats the puppy!
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Cheers mate :cool:
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paultownsend - the AVS febi ones will be more than good enough.