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Title: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Josho on 11 February 2009, 18:30
Was driving along with my sister earlier on a motorway, then her car cut out, and didn't start again, she then put her clutch in and started panicing, and the brakes went hard. She said she put the clutch in cause the engine was slowing her down.

Anyway, we got th car to the hard shoulder, nothing stopped there thank goodness, and I pulled it into second, told her to take the clutch off and then the engine and gearbox screamed (at about 45MPH) and I used the handbrake to stop us.

I've asked on the Micra forums about this, but got no luck, any damage this could of caused?

My dad and brother towed the car home, haven't looked at it yet, but anything that could of been damaged?

The Micra doesn't have a rev counter, so I dunno what revs we hit.

Just lucky we didn't die I guess.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: ToRo on 11 February 2009, 18:34
Scrap it.

That's about as far as my experience/kindness with micra's goes :P
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Josho on 11 February 2009, 18:42
Scrap it.

That's about as far as my experience/kindness with micra's goes :P

Lol. It is a good little car in all fairness, just sh!t at the same time.

Good fuel economy, cheap insurance, cheap to run, you obviously are gay or borrowing your mums car if you are male and are driving it.
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: danny_p on 11 February 2009, 19:18
enigne brakeing don't damage anything,    45 in 2nd  should be fine   most small cars have the rev limute at about 50 in 2nd.   abovev that chould damage
 
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Mew on 11 February 2009, 19:36
Was driving along with my sister earlier on a motorway, then her car cut out, and didn't start again, she then put her clutch in and started panicing, and the brakes went hard. She said she put the clutch in cause the engine was slowing her down.

Anyway, we got th car to the hard shoulder, nothing stopped there thank goodness, and I pulled it into second, told her to take the clutch off and then the engine and gearbox screamed (at about 45MPH) and I used the handbrake to stop us.

I've asked on the Micra forums about this, but got no luck, any damage this could of caused?

My dad and brother towed the car home, haven't looked at it yet, but anything that could of been damaged?

The Micra doesn't have a rev counter, so I dunno what revs we hit.

Just lucky we didn't die I guess.

Thanks.

smart :wink:
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Josho on 11 February 2009, 20:02
Was driving along with my sister earlier on a motorway, then her car cut out, and didn't start again, she then put her clutch in and started panicing, and the brakes went hard. She said she put the clutch in cause the engine was slowing her down.

Anyway, we got th car to the hard shoulder, nothing stopped there thank goodness, and I pulled it into second, told her to take the clutch off and then the engine and gearbox screamed (at about 45MPH) and I used the handbrake to stop us.

I've asked on the Micra forums about this, but got no luck, any damage this could of caused?

My dad and brother towed the car home, haven't looked at it yet, but anything that could of been damaged?

The Micra doesn't have a rev counter, so I dunno what revs we hit.

Just lucky we didn't die I guess.

Thanks.

smart :wink:

What? Sarcasm? Lol!

OK, I guess it'll be fine then. Just made one hell of a noise. Engine didn't come back either. It's only a 1l lol.
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Gareth on 18 February 2009, 02:08
when it died did the engine sound like some one was shaking a box of nails?
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Josho on 18 February 2009, 17:56
when it died did the engine sound like some one was shaking a box of nails?

No.

Fixed it now, ran out of fuel! Gauge just got stuck, simple hit on the dash solved it.  :grin:
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: danny_p on 18 February 2009, 18:28
people really do need to be taught more about cars when there learning to drive.

if engine quit  hazzards go on,    people will know where your going and normaly let you across to the hard sholder where you can stop in a controlled manner or roll to a hault.

if the engine just dies  leave it in cog  keep vac assistance and power steering that way, if it goes bang  ok dip clutch and knock it out of gear  but two pokes of the brakes and the servo assistance is gone but car still has 100% of it's brakeing capacity  just have to push harder

by the sound of it you din't know any diffrent  but pullin gthe handbrake up was a really stupid thing to do.   if you have a capable driver in the car they will have a good chance of keeping things under control but you can expect to get punched once it's all sorted out,   an inexperianced driver could very easly comppletly loose control at 30 mph.

i had a pissed up passinger in the rear reach forward and pull the handbrake when traveing down the A49 because the TW@ was haveing an argument with his misses, thankfully everyone else was fine  bar a few cuts. he gotaway with broken jaw, nose a couple of cracked ribs and concussion and buying me another car.

Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Josho on 19 February 2009, 00:10
people really do need to be taught more about cars when there learning to drive.

if engine quit  hazzards go on,    people will know where your going and normaly let you across to the hard sholder where you can stop in a controlled manner or roll to a hault.

if the engine just dies  leave it in cog  keep vac assistance and power steering that way, if it goes bang  ok dip clutch and knock it out of gear  but two pokes of the brakes and the servo assistance is gone but car still has 100% of it's brakeing capacity  just have to push harder

by the sound of it you din't know any diffrent  but pullin gthe handbrake up was a really stupid thing to do.   if you have a capable driver in the car they will have a good chance of keeping things under control but you can expect to get punched once it's all sorted out,   an inexperianced driver could very easly comppletly loose control at 30 mph.

i had a pissed up passinger in the rear reach forward and pull the handbrake when traveing down the A49 because the TW@ was haveing an argument with his misses, thankfully everyone else was fine  bar a few cuts. he gotaway with broken jaw, nose a couple of cracked ribs and concussion and buying me another car.



She panics. Hazards went on, has no PAS, and she was panicing. Wasn't a yank of the handbrake, a slow pull, making sure the wheels didn't lock up.
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: danny_p on 19 February 2009, 22:52
2 things she needs to learn then.     

panicking  is anoying,  it'll all be fine.     2)  don't run out of petrol
Title: Re: Engine braking, likely to do any damage?
Post by: Josho on 19 February 2009, 22:57
2 things she needs to learn then.     

panicking  is anoying,  it'll all be fine.     2)  don't run out of petrol

That and to drive. 4th gear round corners at high speeds is stupid. You try getting through to her. (http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif)  :grin:

Well anyway, we got out of it. Petrol gauge is all sorted now.  :laugh:

Meh.