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Title: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: jasonoldy69 on 05 February 2009, 22:42
I've been looking at reconditioned G60 chargers on eBay.  Is it worth getting one for a mk3 Golf Gti?  Or, will it even fit?  :undecided:  Bit of an amateur to all this so it will be interesting to know what you all think.

Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: topher on 05 February 2009, 22:58
Doesn't quite work like that fella.. it's not a bolt-on part. If supercharged is your aim you'd be better off sourcing an entire G60 engine/management.
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: jasonoldy69 on 06 February 2009, 00:15
Haha thought I was getting somewhere then.

Is there no way of upgrading the current engine instead of replacing it.  Something that gives a bit more umph than a new air filter.
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: topher on 06 February 2009, 12:14
Lots of things you can do. But you have to have a serious think about what you're trying to achieve and for what budget. It gets to a point where doing lots of engine work will cost as much as an engine swap.. but still not be as powerful. Similarly you can have engine conversions that cost more than it would to sell your car and upgrade to a more powerful one in the first place.
Which engine do you currently have 8v or 16v? And what is your budget?
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: danny_p on 06 February 2009, 14:20
if you have a 16v  DO IT.   won't be cheep tho
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: jasonoldy69 on 06 February 2009, 15:20
It's a 2L 8v.

I'm not too fussed on the budget really.  The Golf is in excellent condition, I've had it for a few years now and spent a fortune keeping it well maintained.  And, I'm not really prepared to get another car, I'm pretty happy with what I have  :cool:

Plus, I have a trusty local mechanic that's prepared to do some jobs for me.

I want to focus on the engine though, I'm not completely into alloys and body styling, etc.

Those chargers started at £800 so what would you recommend in that price range?
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: topher on 06 February 2009, 15:24
Rip old engine out, replace with VR6 or 16v.

You could spend the same amount on head work, cam, exhaust/manifold and still only gain 20 - 30 bhp from the 8v.
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: jasonoldy69 on 06 February 2009, 15:32
I was having a word with the old man about that.  He wasn't sure its worth doing because once you put a bigger engine in, you need to replace everything else to cope with it.  Such as the brakes and other parts?
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: topher on 06 February 2009, 15:38
If you want to make it faster, you'll be wanting improved handling and stopping power.. doesn't matter if you're doing it with an engine swap, turbo conversion or lightened to high heaven and revving to 9000rpm.

You could pick up a rear ended 16v or vr6 for less than 800 and have everything you need ready to swap over.
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: jasonoldy69 on 06 February 2009, 15:51
Kool.  what should I be asking for when sourcing a VR6 engine?  Low mileage?
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 06 February 2009, 20:39
Sheesh, when will people learn about Golf3 8V GTIs?

They just can't be made good.

Even going to a 16V motor has a cable-change 'box, which needs different driveshafts.  VR6 too.
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: Josho on 07 February 2009, 09:50
DH, I've got a 8v 1.4 What can I do to make it faster?  :laugh:

There is a few steep hills near me.  :grin:
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: danny_p on 07 February 2009, 12:37
tow rope
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 February 2009, 21:33
DH, I've got a 8v 1.4 What can I do to make it faster?

You're gonna need a big drop, or deep pockets.

Or if you want to keep the 1.4 bit of the engine, a 1.4 TFSI Golf5 that's been stuffed up the ar$e.
Title: Re: G60 charger for a Golf, is it worth it?
Post by: kerrly on 17 February 2009, 11:29
Sheesh, when will people learn about Golf3 8V GTIs?

They just can't be made good.

Even going to a 16V motor has a cable-change 'box, which needs different driveshafts.  VR6 too.

dam right!!!

At least if you are going to charge a 2.0 8v get a Eaton charger off a Merc 230 Kompressor or similar as a G60 isnt a direct fit and is more hassle than its worth. Besides  there are plenty more differeces between a 1.8 G60 engine and a 2.0 8v other than the charger!! 
 
Even if you want to do a VR or 16v conversion inless you have a very mint shell , air con, all electrics an recaro or leather interior id sooner sell the 8v and buy a VR6, then whatever money you have set aside for putting a supercharger on a 8v id use toward maintenance on the VR and possibly a  supercharger for a VR6 and have circa 275+ HP and already have the 288mm brakes, the better cable change box, 5stud hubs, that a VR has as standard.

plenty of VRs for <£2k and you could EASILY spend 2k having a charger installed on a 8v and still have less than 200hp.