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Title: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: boneybradley on 22 January 2009, 19:45
It called this kestral sim180, i read on detail forums and they seem to be ok (for the price!) and I will nosy on detailingworld or whatever the forums called.. What I need is advice on products I need!! It has 3 different pads (180mm if that makes a difference?) but i guess i need some liquid stuff?
I currently have
megs gold wash
meg's clay bar
meg's stage 1 & 2 paint cleaner & polish
autoglym polish (the one for dark cars)
and some meg's gold class wax
so what am i missing to give it some really good results!! and can i use some of the polishes i already have?

oh yeah i have chucked my sponge and silicon dryer thing away (should keep you clean people happy  :undecided:)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Guy on 22 January 2009, 20:04
good stuff

menzerna polishes - get a sample set from somewhere like elite

ps. will reply to pm later :wink:
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Jkctr on 22 January 2009, 20:09
Second menzerna, the megs #80 and #83 are very good but i doubt its use on VW paint will be great!
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Frothey on 22 January 2009, 20:34
Megs 80 and 83 are fine on VAG paint and will be far easier to work with this time of year (unless you're in a heated garage)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Jkctr on 22 January 2009, 20:42
From doing a few cars menzerna is very easy to use on most paints, and requires much less work to break down. Also gives a much better result. I do like the megs #80 and #83 but i find my fav pad/polish combo usually has menz in it!

I used menzerna on a porsche and bmw (and 99 reg polo) with awesome results.

It did this
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/23042008175.jpg)
(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/23042008178.jpg)

(i did the right side after 1 pass)

(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/Jules86dad/23042008181.jpg)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Conker on 22 January 2009, 21:35
This link might help show you what a starter kit could consist of...


http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing/polishing-machine/kestrel-dual-action-polisher-meguiars-kit/prod_521.html

Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: boneybradley on 22 January 2009, 22:18
Right I best have a look at some of that meg's stuff.......Hopefully my knackered 18 year old paint will look that bit better soon?? (oh and I'm going to look at some video on that detailed forum about using it this weekend!)
Expect some photos tears soon!!  :grin:

and conker that link certainly helped......I only paid £50 for it with 3 pads!! (bargain looking at that?)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: T_J_G on 22 January 2009, 22:27
I just bought the Kestrel DA one. The only negative i've heard is the lead isn't long enough but a thread on DW shows you how to extendit for about £3.
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Guy on 22 January 2009, 22:33
am i right in thinking that the one you have got boney isn't a DA one?
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: T_J_G on 22 January 2009, 22:37
Think it's the rotatry which is slightly cheaper

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/kestrel-sim180-rotary-polisher/cat_72.html
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Guy on 22 January 2009, 22:41
Think it's the rotatry which is slightly cheaper

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/kestrel-sim180-rotary-polisher/cat_72.html

easy does it to begin with then boney!  :wink:
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Conker on 22 January 2009, 22:45
and conker that link certainly helped......I only paid £50 for it with 3 pads!! (bargain looking at that?)

Bargain!!   Was it new?


You probably know this, but go down a scrappy and get any old bonnet or door to practice on first.  Interesting youtubes:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JzyRb30boUE

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GZVDsiEQ8-w

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3sJ_rnDV1ts&feature=related
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Guy on 22 January 2009, 22:49
can the first person to use one of these Kestrel machine polishers please post a review - I am getting loads of questions about them - ta muchos  :wink:
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: T_J_G on 22 January 2009, 22:54
can the first person to use one of these Kestrel machine polishers please post a review - I am getting loads of questions about them - ta muchos  :wink:

Mine's due tomorrow ready for action on Saturday;)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: boneybradley on 22 January 2009, 23:03
i read a few reviews on some of the forums and they both seem to be well liked for the prices...

review for sim180 http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=91227 (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=91227)

sounds good....and yeah £50 brand new (someone got 2 for xmas and kept the meg's one!)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Frothey on 23 January 2009, 08:44
From doing a few cars menzerna is very easy to use on most paints, and requires much less work to break down. Also gives a much better result. I do like the megs #80 and #83 but i find my fav pad/polish combo usually has menz in it

The Menzerna RDS85 3.02 followed by final finish is my first choice BUT it can very very twitchy to temperature and humidity - so it'll be a dream on a warm sunny day, but can be a complete b!tch in the middle of winter! with the right technique, there is really nothing between menzerna and meg's pro range, though the 3.02 is absolutely ideal for most vag paints
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Guy on 23 January 2009, 08:54
i'd guess most enthusiasts will be doing the polishing and cutting in warmer weather
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: boneybradley on 23 January 2009, 11:56
Has any body ever used this place...I found it looking for menzerna products! they seem to offer a good range and there cheap http://www.autoperfectionworld.co.uk/catalog/ (http://www.autoperfectionworld.co.uk/catalog/)
The have a 100ml sample of RDS85 3.02 for £2.97 ( i usually buy from a place called three60 but they dont do that brand......)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: boneybradley on 24 January 2009, 19:40
well I've bought the following today.....

25mm x 50m 3M 3434 High Perform Masking Tape
Menzerna Intensive Polish PO85RD-3.02 100ml
Menzerna Final Finsh PO85RD 100ml
Menzerna Final Finish PO106FA 100ml
and 3 different pads....
oh and i have some collinite from last year (716 i think?)

and I've watched loads of video's....just need warmer weather and off i go!!
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Frothey on 25 January 2009, 08:34
after the 3.02 you can go straight to the 106FA - just remember to work the polishes fully. have fun!
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: stealthwolf on 25 January 2009, 15:29
Any links to the videos? Depending on weather, my car will be detailed next weekend, with a machine polish too.
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: boneybradley on 25 January 2009, 16:11

You probably know this, but go down a scrappy and get any old bonnet or door to practice on first.  Interesting youtubes:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JzyRb30boUE

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GZVDsiEQ8-w

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3sJ_rnDV1ts&feature=related


I started with them and worked through the similar video's  oh and i looked on detailedworld and found lots of great hints and tips    try this link http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=66024 (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=66024)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: boneybradley on 31 January 2009, 15:06
we'll i have bought all this stuff.....so when the weather improves it's time for machine polishing
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k165/boneybradley/DSCN4898.jpg)
(oh I used autoperfection and got the 3 sample's, some clay lube, 3m tape all for under £20 delivered  :cool: and it was here next day.......)
Title: Re: I've only gone and bought a machine polisher!! I have idea how to use..
Post by: Vdubbster on 06 February 2009, 20:23
keep this updated mate