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Title: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 20 January 2009, 15:29
Wheels experts...what do we reckon, are these genuine....Not sure I like the sheen on them, look less OEM and more Max Power to me, what do you reckon?


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-INCH-GENUINE-GOLF-GTI-ALLOY-WHEELS_W0QQitemZ260343339800QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET?hash=item260343339800&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/18-INCH-GENUINE-GOLF-GTI-ALLOY-WHEELS_W0QQitemZ260343339800QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Trims_Car_Rims_ET?hash=item260343339800&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318)

Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: markymark on 20 January 2009, 16:06
They look genuine to me, it may just be the photo which makes them look more bling!
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: Hurdy on 20 January 2009, 16:33
Reps are usually 45 offset and these are listed as 51, so I'd say genuine. How they have been refurbed may be up for debate though :undecided:
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: winrya on 21 January 2009, 01:01
what about these mate?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1462.0
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 21 January 2009, 07:25
Thanks mate :-) mail sent
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 26 January 2009, 17:46
just made a best offer on the ones on the bay of £400...and to my shock it was accepted! Sh1t, have I made a foxes paw? The other seller above wouldn't sell the rims only, I didn't need the rubber and really have no room to store them.

Don't know if it's possible to get out of the purchase? still.... I do want some bbs monzas  :rolleyes: think I will go for it, however I am worried about just how well these have been refurbished.
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: LaserBlue on 26 January 2009, 21:25
just made a best offer on the ones on the bay of £400...and to my shock it was accepted! Sh1t, have I made a foxes paw? The other seller above wouldn't sell the rims only, I didn't need the rubber and really have no room to store them.

Don't know if it's possible to get out of the purchase? still.... I do want some bbs monzas  :rolleyes: think I will go for it, however I am worried about just how well these have been refurbished.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!


DO NOT BUY THEM FROM HIM!!!

Thats the guy i purchased my monzas from, if you can remember i posted a thread about my monzas with the black inserts, he will contact you asking for immediate payment then ask if you want grey inserts or black THEY ARE FAKE!!

I tried numerous times but he refused to tell the truth and still says they are genuine after VW insepected mine they said overall they are very good copies and made in Germany but are not genuine monza2s.

Ive contacted Ebay as he is stating they are a genuien article even putting BBS in his advert!!

Im currently selling mine for £375 with nearly new tires on!
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: KentBladeboy on 26 January 2009, 21:38
Ouch.........would have walked looking at that feedback
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: LaserBlue on 26 January 2009, 21:46
yeah i know what you mean.. when somethings to good to be true, IT IS!!!

i paid £375 best offer, a friend of mine will take them off me for £300 so i guess its a lesson learnt

still ill be more carefull in the future!
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: JonnyG on 26 January 2009, 22:00
Don't know if it's possible to get out of the purchase? still.... I do want some bbs monzas  :rolleyes: think I will go for it, however I am worried about just how well these have been refurbished.

Oooh that's  a real con if they are'nt genuine  :angry:

Ask him for photos of the rear of the wheels showing the ET No.,  BBS No. and VW Part Number which are engraved on the back of the wheel if genuine ... if he can't provide these then I think you can quite legitimatley back out of the deal and report him for misleading you, as LaserBlue says.

These are what genuine ones look like (nos. may be slightly different as some of these photos are 17" Monzas but you get the style)  :

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i64/Jerry_G/AlloysBBSNo.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i64/Jerry_G/Alloys1KONumber.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i64/Jerry_G/AlloyBackCloseUpET51.jpg)

Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 26 January 2009, 22:34
Wow lads!!! Thanks for the heads up laser blue  :smiley:

I thought I did check out his feedback! I didn't see any evidence to the contrary! Right I need out of this sale immediately!

I will demand proof of them being stamped correctly, however there's no guarantee that he won't just take pictures like the above from here or elsewhere and insist on them being real and then sending the fakes! Sh1t!! Right have to contact eBay immediately!!!

Haven't parted with a penny yet so at least that's ok only thing I need worry about is backing out!!
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 26 January 2009, 23:41
Laser, I just sent the seller a mail stating the fact that he sold similar wheels previously and that these were proven to be fakes and in the light of previous misrepresentation of similar product I would not be proceeding with the order. Did you report it to eBay at the time? May need you to pm me with any details if I have to take this further...... Grrs I mean why lie ffs!! What a twit!
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: LaserBlue on 27 January 2009, 05:30
Yeah i did contact Ebay they said try and resolve the issue with the seller, but as i did not pay via paypal i was not covered and most they could do is make a note of it..

Its just a pain in the ass that i also left him good feedback without double checking the rims over  :sad:

Also the alloy in his photo is a genuine bbs rim as you can see the edges are more to the circumference of the rim

He also sent me out vw center caps that are poorly made, PLUS original wheel locking nust did not fit and i had to purchase new ones 60 something cause the guy at my local tire shop said it would be dangerous to fit nuts that sit bent in the rim so new nuts cost me £40.

Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 27 January 2009, 07:11
Yeah, I didn't call him but he wanted me to contact him BEFORE making payment, no doubt to get me to avoid paypal and so my protection.  Actually that kind of behaviour is also frowned ion under eBay rules.  I am glad you notified eBay it will strengthen my case should this muppet try to force me to complete on the sale.

Phew so glad you found my post mate that was a luck break on my part!
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: VeeDubDan on 27 January 2009, 09:08
Be careful people, it's a jungle out there!  :laugh:

Joking aside its not nice to see scum bags like this on ebay, makes you think twice about bidding on things.
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 27 January 2009, 09:52
The seller is getting annoyed with me now

He thinks the information I am getting from LaserBlue is pants, there is way too much doubt in my mind to conclude this transaction.  To be fair Lasers wheels looked good to me (in photos, not seen in flesh) but I WANT genuine wheels....simple eh? If an ad says Genuine VW BBS wheels then they should actually be that...or perhaps I am being old fashioned   :shocked:

May need more details from Laser if things turn more nasty, havent contacted the bay yet but I think another ebayers experience with the same product from the same seller presents enough doubt to make the transaction invalid.
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 27 January 2009, 16:00
The cheeky beggar is trying to push a £25 abortive sales cost onto me!  :sick:

I have reminded him that the reason for the abortive sale is his misrepresentation of the goods! If he has any further communication with me of such a threatening nature I will pass all the details of my sale and laserblues interaction with VW who stated that these were NOT the genuine article.

Am I being unreasonable?
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: Rhyso on 27 January 2009, 16:51
The cheeky beggar is trying to push a £25 abortive sales cost onto me!  :sick:

I have reminded him that the reason for the abortive sale is his misrepresentation of the goods! If he has any further communication with me of such a threatening nature I will pass all the details of my sale and laserblues interaction with VW who stated that these were NOT the genuine article.

Am I being unreasonable?

no!

nothing worse than being mis-sold something  :angry:
Title: Re: Monza IIs
Post by: player.777 on 27 January 2009, 17:02
no not at all!!  And to the best of my knowledge that £25 abortive sale charge is bogus too.  I bought a set of alloys last week from the bay- later found out they wouldn't fit the car, so cancelled it with the seller, he was fine about it, he cancelled the transaction with ebay, and they emailed me to see if I agree to cancel- of course, I did, and that was the end of that.  There was no charge, no ramifications, nothing. Get onto ebay straight away, don't take any sh+t from this guy, just report him for selling fake goods- luckily they will be on your side, as they hate fake goods being sold on their site.