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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: matsu on 18 January 2009, 14:58
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wow i,m hooked. took a mkv out for test drive today....just to prove point to myself that it is a gti i want. i booked a test in the fiesta st for next week even tho i sat in one before the golf, i doubt i,ll even take it out to be honest....
loved the dsg how cool is that toy!
dealer was in southend essex,they guy was very cool,let me put me boot in a lil.yep yep yep.
only 6 weeks to go and sh!t load of saving up to do in that time!!!
gotta keep looking out for the right car at right price now.
lots of price dropping at mo so i hope i can get few more spec and lower mileage than i might of a few months ago.
fingers toes and anything else crossed!
any more advice muchly appreciated
matsu
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I'd still tell you to go test-drive the ST, just so you can appreciate the differences.
Obviously have the car checked out using the new-car checklist, ask about the history of the car and make sure its had all the appropriate services and recall fixes.
And make sure you test drive the car you will buy.
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Ha, I did exactly the same thing, went to test drive a mkv gti just to make sure it was the car I wanted next, had no intention of buying the car as I was going to wait 6 months and it wasn't the colour I wanted. Bought it 2 weeks later :smiley:
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Do you mean you plan to drive the Focus ST next weekend? Fiesta ST is a completely different proposition.
My bro has a 3dr Focus ST 3 - he's done about 60k miles in it over 2 1/2 years but it rattles a lot and gulps fuel like crazy - I've driven it, and whist it makes an amazing noise, I much prefer my Golf Gti 3dr. :)
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yep as ub said im gonna test it , mostly cos i wanna prove to myself that spending the extra3-5k is worth it.i might also look at the civic typeR and even the mini cooperS
i will test the golf i buy, but i have good mate who is second hand dealer who will hnt me one down so i will give him price range preferred specs,optional specs mileage ranges and a few comments ive picked up here on this forum so he knows what specifically to look and ask for with the mkv.
then when one comes up i will test it before he buys it.
getting excited and impatient now esp after today but ive only got one stab financially to get this right so i,ll bide my time.by the end of feb i hope a few better cars will drop into my bracket.
for example
one ive looked at 40k on the clock has dropped from 11500 to 9725 in 6 weeks, but its 5dr and altho i like the dk blue i want the black i drove today.
i also didnt realise the diff that 18"alloys make to the look untill i stepped out of the car and had parked it to a fab steel grey with 18s and noticed the black didnt.
silly things but they are now soooo important.
thanks again for the help
matsu
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All those cars listed are very different!
Fiesta ST - Poor straight line performance, amazing chassis, possibly best of any hatch.
Golf GTI - excellent mix of performance and handling with great build quality
Type R - ok straight line speed, not very tunable (without spending thousands), great handling, needs to be pushed all the time
Cooper S - generally rubish, anyone who has had one and bought any other hot hatch after has commented how bad it is, poor build, handling and straight line speed
Check out an mazda 3 MP3, one of the fastest hot hatches about with understated looks and good handling. Im not a huge fan of the looks but there a very good car!
Try a MK4 R32 (should be in budget) as well.
Or just go for the MK5 gti, you wont be disappointed and i can assure you none of the other above cars are a step up!
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thanks jules
mucho gracias.
cant afford the mpg on a r32 much as i loved the one i sat in at the dealer today :laugh:
fanx bud
matsu
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Cooper S - generally rubish, anyone who has had one and bought any other hot hatch after has commented how bad it is, poor build, handling and straight line speed
What a load of ****
People may be sour that bmw stole the mini brand but I assure you, having driven and spent a lot of time with all the cars on that list, the cooper s handles better than all of them and sounds better to boot. Its a bit hardcore for me, but for a one off thrash, its as quick as the golf and is as close to a go kart as you can get. Evo listed the the R53 S as the best hot hatch you could buy until they didnt make it anymore and they gave the gti its crown.
Type r is nice but dated and low spec'd and has very little steering feel
Fiesta St is completely outclassed in this company and the na 2.0 feels like a 1.2 in comparison. Its a supermini with a little bit of poke and nothing more
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If you have driven the fiesta you will now just how much fun it is on a b-road with a superb chassis set up!
Sorry, the cooper s is awful! Ive yet to meet someone who, after selling and buying something else, didnt realise how bad it was. Constant issues, poor build, weak engine (gets boring very quickly), looks awful. If you can drive its not bad on a b-road but if your a novice its too hard to get any enjoyment out of it. Its also way too overpriced new, the JCW edition is silly money. I used to shake them off in my old ctr with little effort (bar the JCW)
The threads about the comparison (not directly) of both the MC and GTI. The GTI beats it in every way, end of.
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Whats your budget mate (sorry to thread crap!)
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The threads about the comparison (not directly) of both the MC and GTI. The GTI beats it in every way, end of.
Think we'll have to disagree on that one. My other half drives a cooper s with lsd so i drive both quite often. As a motorway cruiser and allrounder the gti is better, for a quick thrash, id take the mini everytime. I've also never seen anything but a brilliant review for the cooper s and everyone i know thats had a mini has replaced it with another, and another which says a lot. I still drive a type r every so often with 61k on the clock and still feels like new. Lovely car and a bargain compared to the mini and gti but its starting to feel out dated and out classed
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Fair enough mate, they have sold loads of the things so alot of people like them! Great thing about cars is the amount of differing opinions means there will always be lots of types offering different things :grin:
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I used to own a mini, that's where I got my screen name from, cos I couldn't fit golf clubs in the car.... Anyway to get back on point. I found the mini a good car, whilst it had nothing like the acceleration of the gti it handled the twisties way better with almost zero body roll. To get similar in the gti I would need to tighten up the suspension. Mini gave me 3 years of hassle free driving, it cost me £16k and I sold it for £10k. My golf has lost that in a year ! Credit crunch pain though so that is not exactly a fair comparison......
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One thing that really got me with the Mini was legroom! Friend of mine has a Mini One and I only fit in the front seats and not at all in the back. The Golf fits my lanky frame without crushing whoever is in the back. Fun little thing but I would never swap the Golf for one.
That and it doesn't have the same mid the range pull. Wheee! :laugh:
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wow . that opened a can of worms :grin:
i,ll still test em all but i think i,m sold on the golf already, but if theres that mucho moolah difference then i might be suaded elsewhere....................mmmm doubt it :wink:
i got about 10k sorted and on pistonheads and autotrader there are some nice spec ones coming in and not too higher mileage anymore.
the one i drove yesterday was 15k and stunning but ive seen as good if not more spec'd for about 11k
if this credit crunch bited deeper and the new plates and new mkvi have their impact i should find what i,m looking for....
black(poss steel grey....last resort dk blue)
3dr
leather
18"monzas
dsg or manual(but want dsg now ive played)
armrest
tints
aircon
and anything else is bonus for me... like ipod and 6 disc changer etc. oh and a sunroof would be reaaly cool i miss a sunroof
have i missed anything major? :shocked:
thanks for all the help guys
matsu
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Get the highline trip computer as it is a cheap option, but invaluable. I forgot when I ordered mine :embarassed:
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Get the highline trip computer as it is a cheap option, but invaluable. I forgot when I ordered mine :embarassed:
you haven't got the highline ?! :shocked: :shocked:
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I never got highline either but then I'd have to wait 18 months for a stock GTI rather than the ED30 I drove off with two weeks later.
NM - I'm going for vagcom+netbook soon. Hopefully. Might be after the respray and alloy refurb though.
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Stealthwolf Ive just bought an Acer Aspire one 150 and installed Vista Basic ive also got Micro-can. Amazon are doing the aspire one 150 with a 1gb ram and 120gb sata hdd but only has linux which Ive never used so installed vista it runs very quick but it was a pain to load up cos it has no internal cd drive.
Darren
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Check out an mazda 3 MP3, one of the fastest hot hatches about with understated looks and good handling. Im not a huge fan of the looks but there a very good car!
Or just go for the MK5 gti, you wont be disappointed and i can assure you none of the other above cars are a step up!
Mazda 3 MPS is very underrated ... I drove one and was very impressed - it felt far quicker in a straight line than my std Edition 30 DSG .... Plastics were hard and looks a bit odd but very nice to drive. It's performance is best described as like it is remapped straight out of the factory - it feels just like a remapped Golf as std :evil:
Why did I buy a Golf if the Mazda was quicker and so good ..... well the quality is in a different league - and I wanted DSG :smiley: