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Title: mk4 purchase
Post by: wa gti on 14 January 2009, 14:11
 I  just bought a  2.0 Litre  BLACK,  MK4 GTI   V Reg 2000 model  with 122,000 miles for £1200.  Is it a bargain? Engine is very quiet and everything works and is very clean.

I discovered later the GTI badge at the rear missing. Is it uncommon and if I need to get a gennuine one how and where can I get one reasonably cheap? And is it a stick on?  Does it come with the the red "I" after the GT? Any help please.
Thanks
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: the_stink on 14 January 2009, 14:23
visit awsome-gti.co.uk can buy a gti badge ont here mate ;)
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: ben1.8T on 14 January 2009, 14:37
You got use to the power yet mate?  :wink:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 14 January 2009, 14:47
Now now Ben. Dont be nasty !

Welcome to MK4 ownership :)

Any plans for her?
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: ben1.8T on 14 January 2009, 14:48
Now now Ben. Dont be nasty !

Welcome to MK4 ownership :)

Any plans for her?

Im only messing welcome mate.  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: wa gti on 14 January 2009, 15:00
You got use to the power yet mate?  :wink:

Well to be honest,all I want to know is if its a bargain in terms of the VW GOLF GTI WORLD!1
Bought it for my 21 yr old son who happens to like golf.
Personally my own car is a SAAB 9-5  2.3L with 230 BHP on tap as standard. Woud welcome you to test drive  it :wink:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: jeynesey on 14 January 2009, 15:03
You got use to the power yet mate?  :wink:

Well to be honest,all I want to know is if its a bargain in terms of the VW GOLF GTI WORLD!1
Bought it for my 21 yr old son who happens to like golf.
Personally my own car is a SAAB 9-5  2.3L with 230 BHP on tap as standard. Woud welcome you to test drive  it :wink:

The only reason its not a bargain is the "lump" in the bonnet mate. Otherwise sounds like a bargain.
If its for a 21 year old though may have been better than a 1.8 insurance etc.
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 14 January 2009, 15:04
Its a VERY reasonable price considering its done a fair few miles. Only problem is the 2.0 8v under the bonnet. But saying that, I had one before the MK5 and they are cracking motors and I loved mine, even if it wasnt fast :)
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 15:05
well for £1200 you can't really go wrong!

as for a test drive if it wasn't a Saab i would have maybe said yes  :tongue:

got a pool car in work - its fecking terrible

anyhoo - welcome to the forum!  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: wa gti on 14 January 2009, 15:14
well for £1200 you can't really go wrong!

as for a test drive if it wasn't a Saab i would have maybe said yes  :tongue:

got a pool car in work - its fecking terrible

anyhoo - welcome to the forum!  :smiley:

am picking it up on friday but sadly since its not a 16valve then i probably have to negotiate down the price as my son has been misled its a 16valve.  :sad:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 15:18
well for £1200 you can't really go wrong!

as for a test drive if it wasn't a Saab i would have maybe said yes  :tongue:

got a pool car in work - its fecking terrible

anyhoo - welcome to the forum!  :smiley:

am picking it up on friday but sadly since its not a 16valve then i probably have to negotiate down the price as my son has been misled its a 16valve.  :sad:

whats your budget?  if he's been misled then god knows what else the seller has told him - perhaps walk away?
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 14 January 2009, 15:29
Seller sounds like he has NO IDEA what he is talking about. VW never made a 2.0 16v for the MK4. As sheep boy said, who know what else he has missed.
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 15:35
Seller sounds like he has NO IDEA what he is talking about. VW never made a 2.0 16v for the MK4. As sheep boy said, who know what else he has missed.

shut it ghey boy
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: jeynesey on 14 January 2009, 16:15
well for £1200 you can't really go wrong!

as for a test drive if it wasn't a Saab i would have maybe said yes  :tongue:

got a pool car in work - its fecking terrible

anyhoo - welcome to the forum!  :smiley:

am picking it up on friday but sadly since its not a 16valve then i probably have to negotiate down the price as my son has been misled its a 16valve.  :sad:

whats your budget?  if he's been misled then god knows what else the seller has told him - perhaps walk away?


Walk Away, it may be that he doesnt know what model he had, but it could be that he is misleading in other areas. As it is a very good price, you wont know what else could be awry.
Also your son will prefer something faster  :wink:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: T_J_G on 14 January 2009, 16:39
I'm not even 21 and I drive a 1.8T ;)
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: wa gti on 14 January 2009, 16:42
well for £1200 you can't really go wrong!

as for a test drive if it wasn't a Saab i would have maybe said yes  :tongue:

got a pool car in work - its fecking terrible

anyhoo - welcome to the forum!  :smiley:

am picking it up on friday but sadly since its not a 16valve then i probably have to negotiate down the price as my son has been misled its a 16valve.  :sad:

whats your budget?  if he's been misled then god knows what else the seller has told him - perhaps walk away?


Walk Away, it may be that he doesnt know what model he had, but it could be that he is misleading in other areas. As it is a very good price, you wont know what else could be awry.
Also your son will prefer something faster  :wink:


So, in short what everyone is saying is the 2.0l did not come wth the 16valve variant.
Right, I ihink   considering the 1.8t 20valve 150bhp we  might as well stick to  the more insurance-friendly 2.0l 115 bhp, bearing in mind the cameras dont help driving the more errattic 150bhp 16v.

The question which am asking is does the 2.0L come with the "GTI" badge with  the red "I"?
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 16:48

So, in short what everyone is saying is the 2.0l did not come wth the 16valve variant.
Right, I ihink   considering the 1.8t 20valve 150bhp we  might as well stick to  the more insurance-friendly 2.0l 115 bhp, bearing in mind the cameras dont help driving the more errattic 150bhp 16v.

The question which am asking is does the 2.0L come with the "GTI" badge with  the red "I"?


2.0 was never a GTI in Europe - was badged as a highline

badges mean diddly squat
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: T_J_G on 14 January 2009, 16:49
They were normally badged as all silver but the dealers didn't really have rules for sticking badges on.

If you want an exciting reasonably quick car it has to be a 1.8T, if you don't want the speed go for a TDI 110/115/130
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 14 January 2009, 18:09
^ Spot on what he said. 2.0 isn't economical either. I get better MPG in the 2.0T MK5 (well used to, until I got it remapped but that's not the point). Not to mention its got a serious addiction to oil, and I mean serious, that 2.0 8v drinks the stuff.

If you going to get a 2.0 you might as well get a 115 GT TDI imo or push the boat out a little and get a 130.
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 18:34
They were normally badged as all silver but the dealers didn't really have rules for sticking badges on.

If you want an exciting reasonably quick car it has to be a 1.8T, if you don't want the speed go for a TDI 110/115/130

 :tongue:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Steve_PD on 14 January 2009, 18:36
He's obviously never been in your car  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 18:38
He's obviously never been in your car  :smiley:

indeed  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 14 January 2009, 19:20
Rhyso is hardly 130 anymore tho :D
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 19:22
Rhyso is hardly 130 anymore tho :D

and your point  :huh:

even in standard form it was fairly quick - but now its been R-Tech'd its fecking quick!!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Jonnys07 on 14 January 2009, 19:48
I'm not even 21 and I drive a 1.8T ;)
+1
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: richw911 on 14 January 2009, 20:35
How about the 1.8 20v 125 bhp  - better than the 2.0 8v and cheap insurance  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: T_J_G on 14 January 2009, 21:36
He's obviously never been in your car  :smiley:

indeed  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Been in a mapped 130 and they're quick. But try catching me!;)
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Madmax on 14 January 2009, 21:39
How about the 1.8 20v 125 bhp  - better than the 2.0 8v and cheap insurance  :smiley:

But less torque. :tongue: (Or so i read)

Insurance was exactly the same for me.
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: richw911 on 14 January 2009, 21:43
How about the 1.8 20v 125 bhp  - better than the 2.0 8v and cheap insurance  :smiley:

But less torque. :tongue: (Or so i read)

Insurance was exactly the same for me.

I thought thay had the same amount of torque  :undecided:

1.8 uses no oil  :wink:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 22:37
He's obviously never been in your car  :smiley:

indeed  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Been in a mapped 130 and they're quick. But try catching me!;)

AUM?? Kept up with Dai's motor on the way home (and his is R-Tech'd too)  :tongue:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 14 January 2009, 22:46
*coughs* ;)
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 14 January 2009, 22:50
*coughs* ;)

standard ones get a shock - i'll concede that i'll struggle but remember the story about the tortoise and the hare  :wink:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 15 January 2009, 09:46
standard ones get a shock

I bet they do, Id love to be in the car with you and see their faces, some must just be priceless.

Alexs 150 was giving me a run for its money up the hill on the way to Brands (this was obviously before the remap). Its all about the torque these days.
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 15 January 2009, 09:57
standard ones get a shock

I bet they do, Id love to be in the car with you and see their faces, some must just be priceless.

Alexs 150 was giving me a run for its money up the hill on the way to Brands (this was obviously before the remap). Its all about the torque these days.

yeah they don't look best pleased when i leave them in a cloud of smoke  :laugh: :laugh:

thats what i like about Nick and R-Tech - he isn't concerned about the big numbers - its about the useable power :afro:

wait until Alex gets his mapped - Steve_PD has just had a 200bhp map loaded onto his car!  :shocked:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 15 January 2009, 10:00
Im going to be too scared to race Alex after the remap in case I get embarrassed lol :D

(bring it on :D)

From the sounds of it thought he still quite away from the remap, he wants a new clutch and fly wheel before and that, as you know lol, isnt cheap :(
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: wa gti on 15 January 2009, 11:02
He's obviously never been in your car  :smiley:

indeed  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Am wondering why you guys are flirting aroung 130 or 150bhp golf whereas I had ben experiencing over 200 bhp (indeed 250bhp) in my Saab Aero for a few yrs now. You need to catch up!!

















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Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 15 January 2009, 11:07
He's obviously never been in your car  :smiley:

indeed  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Am wondering why you guys are flirting aroung 130 or 150bhp golf whereas I had ben experiencing over 200 bhp (indeed 250bhp) in my Saab Aero for a few yrs now. You need to catch up!!

















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because we want to drive VW's - not Vauxhalls  :tongue:

plus mine and Steve's are diesels - the pool car we got in work is a Saab 93 diesel and its shocking - it has no go whatsoever!
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: ben1.8T on 15 January 2009, 11:14
He's obviously never been in your car  :smiley:

indeed  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Am wondering why you guys are flirting aroung 130 or 150bhp golf whereas I had ben experiencing over 200 bhp (indeed 250bhp) in my Saab Aero for a few yrs now. You need to catch up!!


My MG ZR Turbo was 261bhp and would have pi#sed all over your Saab and no ones flirting over 130/150bhp they are saying about when they are mapped.
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: jeynesey on 15 January 2009, 12:19

my Saab Aero

Thats why ;)
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 15 January 2009, 12:36
(indeed 250bhp)

*coughs again* :D
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: Rhyso on 15 January 2009, 12:45
(indeed 250bhp)

*coughs again* :D

terrible cough you got there mate - must be all that smoking!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: ben1.8T on 15 January 2009, 12:51
Poor Alan I reckon its to do with shock.  :grin:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 15 January 2009, 12:52
Haters :rolleyes:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: ben1.8T on 15 January 2009, 12:54
Haters :rolleyes:

Its not us. Look Alan I know its 250bhp and thats alot you will get there one day you gotta be a racing driver or something though to handle that sort of power.  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 15 January 2009, 13:00
Did someone say race driver ! :D lol

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/twior/TMC-290507-0647.jpg)
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: ben1.8T on 16 January 2009, 08:51
Did someone say race driver ! :D lol

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/twior/TMC-290507-0647.jpg)

I drove one of them at Brands my work brought me a track day as a leaving present prob hoping I would die and not come back  :grin:
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: AlanD on 16 January 2009, 10:51
Great fun arent they, that was at Thruxton, also took a Cayman S to within an inch of its life :D
Title: Re: mk4 purchase
Post by: ben1.8T on 16 January 2009, 11:08
Great fun arent they, that was at Thruxton, also took a Cayman S to within an inch of its life :D

Yeah was the nuts they limit your revs to 4000rpm when you first go obviously the last lap it went over abit.  :rolleyes:.