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Title: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: 8 valver on 10 January 2009, 20:22
Hello ive a 91 8v gti digifant which is a fantastic little car however i feel i could do with a little more power. I dont want to spoil the essence of the car by dropping in a vr6/1.8t iam a bit old skool so was thinking of a AAG block with my pb head poss twin 45's,just looking for advice from anyone who has done this conversion ie was it worth it ,what i need in parts to do it ,and the expected power output. This is my first golf gti and is not my daily driver so can take my time with this, any help/advice would greatly appreciated thanks :smiley:
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: Jay on 10 January 2009, 22:02
My advice, put bigger stoppers  on it  :grin:
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: DarnPB on 10 January 2009, 23:47
You can chip the ECU on these cars which will give you a little more power, and then the usual add ons, like replacing exhaust manifold for a tubular header, after market exhaust, different duration cam, different air filter, etc, etc. But TBH, you have to spend a fair wedge to get anything over 120bhp, which is not bad at all, but probably a little down on what you are after.
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: Jay on 10 January 2009, 23:56
Aye, If you've got all the stuff for a AGG conversion go for it, otherwise go for the FOTM ABF instead  :wink: You'll more power which is what you want with a decent weight engine init, init?
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: danny_p on 11 January 2009, 03:14
45 doce's  are outdated  and are crap on an 8 valve anyway.   keep it injection or go crossflow and use bike carbs or ITB's
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: 8 valver on 11 January 2009, 10:15
Thanks to everybody for their replys with regards to the AGG block/pb head conversion is it a straight swop or are there other parts which i will have to buy.Will a mk3 gearbox fit without to much hassle in the mk2 subframe sorry if these questions are bit basic but this is the first golf i've owned thanks in advanced :wink:
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: Jay on 11 January 2009, 10:54
I know some people swap out the bottom end from their 1.8 8v and use a 2.0 8v bottom end, is that what you're wanting? From what I've read it gives you a small power gain but loads more torque.
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: 8 valver on 11 January 2009, 18:57
Yes jay that's what i had planned :laugh:
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: richard s on 11 January 2009, 20:55
you put pb head on agg block with agg gasket and use a 2e dizzy and it bolts in to what you have already have
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: sidecarphil on 11 January 2009, 20:57
am i right in thinking that you can also use a 2E motor ??
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: richard s on 11 January 2009, 21:19
yes 2e can be used also there is one more code from the mk3 that can be used but not sure of it
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: danny_p on 11 January 2009, 23:52
2e  was the old favoret but there starting to run out so everyone is munching at the AGG supply now
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: ozegti on 12 January 2009, 21:53
Is this the same if I've got an 8v K Jet? i can get an engine cheap, but need to work out what else i need.

Cheers
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: Jay on 12 January 2009, 22:03
Just the bottom block isn't it?
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: VW BUSH on 12 January 2009, 23:09
Use ADY/Sharan Engine, b different.
Compression ratio is special.
I had a 2e block on of my old Mk2s, was cool but a little thirsty
Sorry to jack your thread  :laugh:
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: 8 valver on 13 January 2009, 21:52
Why is it ness to use a 2e dizzy? dose the pb one not fit?
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: MarkS on 14 January 2009, 00:44
Is there any advantage to using a 2e/AGG bottom end compared to a bored out 1.8?
:)

Alllllllso is there a rough figure of the torque increase by adding a 2.0 bottom end?
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: paultownsend on 14 January 2009, 01:14
i got 145lbft
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: mk2 AL on 14 January 2009, 22:27
PB dizzy is too thin (smaller diameter) so wont fit in the hole properly. You can make up a spacer ring to make it sit in the hole nice (used to be able to buy them from somewhere) but easier to just fit 2e dizzy.

I have recently done a 2e bottom end conversion with schrick 276 cam and slightly modded head, defo has more grunt but tbh for the money it's cost me to build i was expecting more and wouldnt bother doing it again. But i needed an engine and quick for a trip to the ring.

Money is now being saved for 20vt conversion only a few months after doing the 2e stuff  :undecided:
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: danny_p on 14 January 2009, 22:40
agg dizzy also only gives 1 pulse per revolution,   so would only fire one cylinder
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: sidecarphil on 16 January 2009, 21:24
so to do a AGG conversion you need a 2E dissy

but if you use the 2E then the dissy will be ok ??

better off with a 2E motor then ???
Title: Re: MK2 8V- 2.0 AGG PLANNED
Post by: richard s on 16 January 2009, 21:53
i think it was tsr that did the spacer ring to retain original dizzy