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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: DarnPB on 02 January 2009, 08:19
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Anybody used these from GSF?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=380091909889
Are these a cheap version of something else? Are they any good? Or has anyone had any problems with them? If these are crap, what would you recomend and where can I get them?
:smiley:
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I fitted a Bonrath G3 kit to my G2 when I was out in Germany in May - they were VERY stiff and creak a little, but have made the front end pretty sharp.
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thats the bugpack kit pictured, which are fine. in addition to that kit you need proper rear beam bushes (inserts in this kit=crap), front subframe bushes, pas rack bushes if you have pas (manual rack bush in the kit). i think thats it
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Same as big boys toys sell and ive had them on a previous golf to good effect. You wont go far wrong with them though I question why they have put the bump stops in there.
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cant recommend the powerflex kits enough. expensive, but the cars so sharp
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cant recommend the powerflex kits enough. expensive, but the cars so sharp
I have just checked up on powerflex bushes and the prices vary between suppliers. I have found a set for the G60/Rallye. Now one being 2wd and the other being 4wd, do they utilize the same bushes? :huh: I don't want to order a car set to find I can only use half of them. The only car set I have found that includes my car are 297 quid! :shocked: :shocked:
Is it only the front set that is different between the stock MKII and the G60, or are the rears different too?
(I suppose I could always give these guys a call on Monday and pose these questions. :laugh:)
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yours will be the same as normal gti. all you need is rear beams, and front wishbone set.
however i got front subframe and steering rack. cost nowhere near the price you quoted
rear- 45
front in wishbones -89
rack- 20
subframe- 20
big difference- yes
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I have a G60. Most of the suppliers state all MKII 8v and 16v, but not G60. Confused! :undecided:
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powerflex ftw :cool:
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DarnPiston - you will probably be OK with the front end 16V kit, although you'd do well to check your ARB diameter.
For the back end you definitely DO NOT want the Syncro/Rallye set, as they accommodate the superior independent rear suspension. As such the bush kits are completely different.
I'd also suggest checking the rear ARB diameter, to see that it's the same as the specified one on the lesser Golfs - IIRC it could well be a little larger.
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rear arb is part of the rear beam on the lesser/lighter golfs so doesnt need a bush.
imo poly bushes are poly bushes so get the kit you posted up and buy the extras i posted up from rally design (superflex bushes i think), that way it will cost you under a ton to do the lot. your only difference might be a bigger front arb bush? which i think you can get from powerflex or bore out the one in the kit
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honestly dont think you need the arb kit. just think how much use its had over the past 18yrs? i bet there like chocolate by now :smiley: for the cost, i just doubt the poly bushes will make much difference
what you need are uprated arbs. i have the h+r kit. look standard, come with poly bushes, and make the car handle like a dream
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Cool. These last three replies are the answers I was looking for so thanks for your input. I'll order those from ebay and fit them, then make up the rest I'll need later.
Thanks guys! :smiley:
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"honestly dont think you need the arb kit. just think how much use its had over the past 18yrs? i bet there like chocolate by now smiley for the cost, i just doubt the poly bushes will make much difference"
WTF! Your very wrong about the roll bars being like chocolate (take one off an old car sometime and see how wrong lol). Unless the diameters of the bar have changed, they wont get softer. Even after years of use they wont have waisted down by very much at all (maybe a tad but certainly not enough for you to notice lol) and they certainly wont have yielded. You do have a point about fitting uprated items, they do make matters better, though if the guy is relatively happy with the handling as it is they may be a bit OTT and bushes will probably make a small improvement.
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id avoid the bugpack ebay items. cheap for a reason. there too hard. darnpiston, you have a quality car. treat it to some quality items.
i had them on my mk1, and there just way too stiff. no give whatsoever giving a very harsh ride. what are the roads like in spain?
i believe the g60 has a thicker arb than gti.but i think it tapers to a smaller diameter at the ends for the drop links. gti size.
all im saying is do it once, do it properly. as said arbs make things safer, and with a g60, with all that power, youll be going around corners quicker too. my h+r's made a night and day difference
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"as said arbs make things safer"
Splitting hairs here but you didnt and they dont lol (naughty VW for selling us all dangerous cars :tongue:) but nm :rolleyes:.
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I have not ordered them yet, but have sent an email asking questions about them. I think though I may go with powerflex or superflex. (Probably the same company. :grin:)
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These are the ones I have fitted to my Golf here (http://www.bonrath.com/d/dgo.htm) - bought and fitted in Nurburg, when the 'ring ate my wishbone bushes.
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its psychological, in reality there is f**k all diference between brands (i have used bugpack, powerflex, superflex and bonrath on my golfs in the past btw), so if you want to waste your money get the powerflex ones in their pretty boxes, if you want value for money get the bugpack kit and buy the extras from rally design.
lol at paultownsend saying bugpack give a harsh ride, they all do! if you want it comfy stick to rubber bushes
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veedub your right i cant really compare, because one was a mk1 gti, and my current is a mk2. both had weitec fixed rate -40 dampers/springs. both had h+r roll bars. only the chassis were different. but i can remember the difference before and after on both cars with both sets of bushes.but....i liked my mk1 that way.
dont the bugpack items have a rear insert rather than a full bush?
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yeah, you need to buy the rally design ones instead which are solid polyurethane.