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Title: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 30 December 2008, 19:32
Ok so after the new year celibrations i'm off looking for a new 91-92 golf GTi for a VR6 conversion

i want a list of part's i'm gonna need as i think there may be a few more then engine and ECU  :grin:

also is it better to start with an 8V or 16v ???

just gonna look for the cleanest one i can find for about 2K euro's and go from there

want to keep 4 stud wheels and brakes cos i got a set of G60 brakes in the middle of a strip down clean up and reseal

thank's in advance Phil
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 30 December 2008, 19:59
please , i just got my heart set on it after seeing VR6ROB's car at work (when i was in england) and it had me hooked

if it is poo then i will sell it and try something else , but i think it will be for me  :grin: :grin:

or i'll give it to the Mrs and try summet else  :undecided: :undecided:
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Lewy on 30 December 2008, 21:01
Look out for mk2vr6.com. It's offline at the mo due to the guy who runs it is away travelling the world, but it is the font of all knowledge on the vr conversion.

You are better going for a 90 spec Mk2, preferably a 16v as the fuel pump can be utilised on the conversion.

If you can find a complete car for the conversion great, if you can't just go down the Corrado/Golf route, as the Passat is pretty rare in the scrappies/classifieds.

Parts you will need:

Engine
Gearbox
Pedal box - if you require to go down the hyd route, although you can use a Seat clutch mech.
Wiring loom
Subframe - Mk3 can be used only requires a cut down engine mount, but Corrado is a straght swap. Wishbones can be utilised for a wide track front end, but std Mk2 items are fine.
Brakes - you can utilise the Mk3/Corrado brakes too if you want to use the 5 stud hubs, but if you want to retain the 4 stud just use the Mk2 driveshafts and wishbones.
Gear selector mech
Radiator - Mk3 can be used, but the Corrado rad and fan set-up is a straght swap
You can use the Mk2 front cross-member but you need a Mk2 VR6 front solid engine mount. Otherwise go for the Corrado set-up, as agian it's a straight swap.

Don't worry about the rear axle, as they are the same. The Mk3 has thicker rear hubs giving it the wide track.

Can't think of much else at the mo, but any more q's drop me a pm and I'll see what I can do.

Lewy
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Jay on 30 December 2008, 21:33
You're probably best off selling the G60 brake setup and getting an uprated MK3 set for VR use, remember that lump is HEAVY and with that power you're gonna need bigger brakes than the G60's.
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Lewy on 30 December 2008, 23:06
You're probably best off selling the G60 brake setup and getting an uprated MK3 set for VR use, remember that lump is HEAVY and with that power you're gonna need bigger brakes than the G60's.

Yeah after all 8mm makes such a difference!

I sold my VR brakes as I have 2 sets of G60 front set-ups.
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 31 December 2008, 06:30
wow one one car  :wink: :wink:

well i've got all the seal's , discs pad's , bearings now

plus i wand 4 stud for the sleeper look and i want the split rim BBS rim's (don't know if you can get 5 stud) :undecided:
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: DarnPB on 31 December 2008, 06:46
G60 brakes should suffice as I have circa 190BHP and the brakes are more than up to it. May pay you though to upgrade discs to drilled and grooved items to allow maximum cooling air around them and upgrade your pads too. If using G60 items, don't forget to make sure you have the 22mm master cylinder. You may also need to upgrade your suspension.
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Goops on 31 December 2008, 10:36
Read up abit on the conversion, g60 brake setups seem adequate..
With regards to suspension, you could go for a mk3 VR setup though i was told my fks would be cool with either g60 top mounts or VR items!
Think the dudes at mk2vr6 measured the weight diff of 16v engine and vr6 to be approx 40kg... stiffen her up with some better ARBs/Strut braces too!
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 31 December 2008, 14:43
there was some other posts on here from some one who was a little down on the VR6

what would the conversion to a 20v turbo be like then ??

i am just weighing up the ideas at the moment , i am a landrover techy so i'm quite good with the spanners so want to do as much as i can myself  :smiley:

or what other conversions are available  :undecided:
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: JC on 31 December 2008, 15:01
do a TDi conversion, be different, all torque then with great MPG to boot  :grin:
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 31 December 2008, 16:45
what is a BAM engine ???

are they easy to fit ?? and what about tuning ??

i come from a ford RS Turbo back ground so love the kick of a powerfull turbo  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Lewy on 31 December 2008, 16:53
BAM is the engine code for the Audi TT 225 20v Turbo. Also found in the S3.

VR6 is a cheaper conversion, as the BAM demands a bit more £££.

do a TDi conversion, be different, all torque then with great MPG to boot  :grin:

Not as easy to do Chufferoo!
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 31 December 2008, 17:12
hey lewy why the edit to my post ???

i didn't do any thing wrong ???
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Benrevs on 31 December 2008, 17:35
You will also need a mk2 to put it in...   sorry one of those moods. :grin:
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 31 December 2008, 17:41
yeah i kinda guessed that ,

but if you READ my first post it say's

Ok so after the new year celibrations i'm off looking for a new 91-92 golf GTi for a VR6 conversion


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Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Benrevs on 31 December 2008, 18:48
I did expect that...  I shoot my mouth then research later! :laugh:  What I meant was it should be on the list of parts.lol
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 31 December 2008, 19:41
I did expect that...  I shoot my mouth then research later! :laugh:  What I meant was it should be on the list of parts.lol

top of THE list
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: Rodriguez on 01 January 2009, 13:51
How about a R32 conversion????????
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 01 January 2009, 15:19
How about a R32 conversion????????

like this one ???

http://www.volksforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49276 (http://www.volksforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49276)

too expensave for me , although i'm thinking about turbo now  :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: VR6 conversion parts list
Post by: sidecarphil on 02 January 2009, 20:08
if i want to fit a VR6 to my 1989 car what else will i need ???

just a thought :)