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Title: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: Gloves88 on 17 December 2008, 14:14

I've just tried to start my car and it wont start...

Fuel pump primes and it turns over but no spark.

Its really wet just now...could the plugs have moisture on them? If so can i try spraying them with wd40?

Please HELP...am 160miles from home and need to get back today  :sad:

Cheers
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: rubjonny on 17 December 2008, 14:37
calm down dear, lets work through this. Step 1, what engine is it? ;)
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: Gloves88 on 17 December 2008, 14:45
 :smiley: 1.8 8v 90 spec gti

Thanks
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: rubjonny on 17 December 2008, 14:53
reet, if the pump is priming then the ecu is ok at least, do you have a multimeter?  check you get 12v to the black wires at the coil with the ignition on, and pop the ecu & tci-h plugs off give em a clean if they look a bit nasty.

check the earth wires to the side of the head/rocker cover, and make sure the wires to the fuel rail plug are ok as well.  A dodgy ecu temp sender can cause non starting, try giving it a bootfull of throttle see if that gets it going!

Pop off the dizzy cap check for damp/corrosion, and check the terminals on the king lead/coil/middle cap pin.  IOf one o ya leads was dodgy it would still fire but run on 3, so that suggests if there is a spark issue it'll be at the king lead or inside the cap :)
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: Gloves88 on 17 December 2008, 15:01
reet, if the pump is priming then the ecu is ok at least, do you have a multimeter?  check you get 12v to the black wires at the coil with the ignition on, and pop the ecu & tci-h plugs off give em a clean if they look a bit nasty.

check the earth wires to the side of the head/rocker cover, and make sure the wires to the fuel rail plug are ok as well.  A dodgy ecu temp sender can cause non starting, try giving it a bootfull of throttle see if that gets it going!

Pop off the dizzy cap check for damp/corrosion, and check the terminals on the king lead/coil/middle cap pin.  IOf one o ya leads was dodgy it would still fire but run on 3, so that suggests if there is a spark issue it'll be at the king lead or inside the cap :)

Dont have a multimeter...is at home  :sad:

I'll check the plugs and earth....ECU temp sender....i have a funny feeling it could be this (is this the digital temp read out? It has been playing up lately)

Have checked the dizzy cap, it looks fine...pretty new and dry. Leads look fine/should be fine as area also pretty new.

I'll check the other things....thanks very much
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: rubjonny on 17 December 2008, 15:10
a 12v bulb of some kind will do, when my 16v broke down i took out one o my spotlight bulbs and used that :grin:

ecu sender dont do the outside temp gauge no, thats in the inner wing and wont have any effect on the car if its bust.  however if its playing up it may be down to earhting issues to the side of the head, possibly.
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: Gloves88 on 17 December 2008, 16:32
Right just been out all this time trying to get it started....

Headgasket is on its way out but is ok once I've got it running and warmed up.

Issue is it wont stay warm as the MAF keeps sticking and so the engine cuts out again...

Anyone in Glasgow got a spare MAF for me so i can get home? (its a long shot i know)
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: rubjonny on 17 December 2008, 17:06
drown it in penatrating oil while you wiggle de flap, that should free it up nice!
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: sidecarphil on 17 December 2008, 20:08
did you get home then fella ??

i got a spare MAF ere but i'm in holland

i bought one as i thought mine was fubar'd but it wasn't :)

if you want it PM me :)
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: The Mighty Elvi on 17 December 2008, 21:09
After my recent experiences...could it be the ignition switch? :grin:

Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: Gloves88 on 18 December 2008, 10:03
Right I had better give an update...Yeah I did get home, with my car for that matter but not by driving it lol

***Picture a red mk2 on the back of a 911 Recovery Flatbed***

(Haven’t got a card reader just now but will upload the pic and let you all have a chuckle when i do  :tongue:)

Basically after trying everything that rubjonny mentioned above I still couldn’t get the car started so called out the RAC.

The chap arrived and pretty much just repeated what I'd already done still to no avail. Then one last try giving the top of the MAF a hit and it jumped into life....for about 10seconds.

Managed to get it going a  second time and was running for a good while so thought it was fixed, RAC left, I got in to head off did about 400m, then cut out again.

I took the MAF out and had a play and tbh it didnt even look like it was sticking but oiled it up and dropped it back it....still nothing....end result is flatbad came to get me and took me home, 10hours after planning to set off I got back  :grin:

I'm really not sure what’s wrong with it. I'm getting a spark all the way to the plugs. Fuel is coming through as the plugs were wet when I took them out. The headgasket is on the way out (I think) I could hear a slight misfire as well (this cleared tho once it had been running for a few seconds). One possibility is that as the headgasket isn’t 100% I'm getting a bit of moisture in (when it does run there is quite a lot of white smoke). It may have got to the stage now were too much mositure is getting in for it to start  :undecided: ???? (was hoping it would hold out until summer lol)

I've got another MAF here now (cheers for the offer buddy)...will try that today to see if it makes a difference but I dont think it will. I'm not even convinced it’s the headgasket that’s causing the problems....anyone any ideas?

Seems to be priming, turns over, seems to be getting a spark but no bang?
Title: Re: Car wont start and need to get home...HELP Please!
Post by: rubjonny on 18 December 2008, 13:30
the fact bashing the afm made it run suggests to me the problem is there, or with the wiring to it.  Pull back the rubber boot from the AFM plug and make sure non of the wires are frayed :)