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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Mikeyd1 on 04 July 2020, 20:39
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Hi as the title suggest. I’m thinking about trading in my 2019 gt 1.5 150 dsg for a 2019 gti. I do generally do short runs. A few questions. What’s the mpg going to be like? What’s is it like to own. Is it worth the extra £4400 they want for cost to change. It’s a 2019 indium grey 245 with Brescias. With 7000 miles No sunroof or leather. I do like my car tho and only have a 2000 miles on it. It’s just I always end up buying wheels and stuff. I thought I may just get the gti. Thanks in advance
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I'm not sure what answer you are expecting given that you are asking this on a GTI forum! Yes! Do it! I had a 1.5TSI as a loan car once and while it was a Golf and okay, a GTI will be more exciting. My PP was a MK7 manual so not quite the same but economy was excellent, 35mpg regularly, 40+ on a long run, 50 when bored. A DSG may be 3-5 mpg less but I'm sure someone will come along and confirm that.
Brescias are a great looking wheel, the standard interior is excellent and although I rather like a sunroof, it's not essential. Ultimately it's your money but the GTI is very well specced, decent economy and really great to drive. Good luck with your decision :smiley:
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Thankyou mate I appreciate your words of wisdom, I understand this is a mainly gti forum but it’s nice to see if people have driven the 1.5
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No problem, I am biased but the GTI is exciting, the 1.5TSI competent. Ultimately it's personal preference. I don't know what your budget is like but a TCR if in budget is a good step up too :smiley:
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TCR is just out my price range, I did see a nice white on autotrader and got me thinkin but out of my reach
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£4400 cost to change?
Get it done!
My initial thoughts when seeing you’d only done 2k miles was “ouch, that’s going to be massive depreciation for such little use” which is something I’m very familiar with myself.
Then I pondered the cost to change for almost a whole nanosecond and came to the conclusion I’d probably chew their arm off for that.
The GTI will cost a bit more to run but not heaps more and you’re not doing massive miles so will hardly notice it.
£4400 for all the extra satisfaction of owning the GTI which will also be worth more than the 1.5 when you come to sell it negating most, if not all of the cost to change.
I look forward to seeing the photos! :wink:
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£4400 cost to change?
Get it done!
My initial thoughts when seeing you’d only done 2k miles was “ouch, that’s going to be massive depreciation for such little use” which is something I’m very familiar with myself.
Then I pondered the cost to change for almost a whole nanosecond and came to the conclusion I’d probably chew their arm off for that.
The GTI will cost a bit more to run but not heaps more and you’re not doing massive miles so will hardly notice it.
£4400 for all the extra satisfaction of owning the GTI which will also be worth more than the 1.5 when you come to sell it negating most, if not all of the cost to change.
I look forward to seeing the photos! :wink:
As soon as they mentioned that figure ad a said l will sign now at 4k just to see if they went for it :grin: and they would
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So is there anything wrong with the 2019s as over the mk7 owners club there seems to be a whole topic discussing 2019 stalling issues, has me a bit concerned. Thanks
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You can probably find issues with most cars if you look hard enough! There were a couple of people on here with stalling issues but it hasn't featured often nor for quite sometime that I've noticed. Mine is a 2019 and I've not had that problem. They're a great car, for that cost to change, seriously, go for it!
So what spec is the car you are looking at?
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So is there anything wrong with the 2019s as over the mk7 owners club there seems to be a whole topic discussing 2019 stalling issues, has me a bit concerned. Thanks
Can’t remember reading anything on this forum about GTI stalling issues. If that stalling issue is fuel-related (maybe it is, maybe it isn’t), then it could be down to the quality of fuel sold in USA/Canada - bearing in mind the vast majority of forum members on golfmk7.com are based in USA/Can.
Having said that, VW’s 1.5 EVO engine that you have in your current Golf has a reputation for ‘kangaroo-ing’ before it’s fully warmed up and it didn’t put you off getting a Golf with that engine - although maybe you weren’t aware of the issue (quite a few unhappy owners on many of the VAG forums with kangaroo-ing VW’s, Audi’s, Seat’s snd Skoda’s fitted with the 1.5 engine).
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So is there anything wrong with the 2019s as over the mk7 owners club there seems to be a whole topic discussing 2019 stalling issues, has me a bit concerned. Thanks
My 2019 has never missed a beat! By 245, do you mean the car is a Performance? If so, similar spec to mine, which I love. It is simply a totally competent car, which has ample capability on all counts. Just do it!
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Spec is 2019 indium grey 245 pp with 19 inch Brescia wheels and I think that’s it but not sure if it has anything else, even tho I’m well accustomed to vw golfs I’ve never had a gti so not sure all the engines , gearboxes etc , I’m meant to be checking out tomorrow.
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An absolute no brainier - get it done today. I bought mine from new at the end of 2018, possibly the best car I’ve ever owned.
Economy is great - drive reasonably gently on a long run and 40+mpg is easy
Build quality - top notch
Equipment level - as standard, struggle to think what else you would want
Service costs - probably no more than what you are paying now
DSG - brilliant
Looks - Indium grey is a great colour, makes the red trim pop out ( I’m biased)
Fun factor - where roads permit, plant the right foot, feel the front end lift a little and watch the horizon rush towards you😎😄
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006250515186
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Looks great! I'm sure you'll enjoy the test drive! As others have said regarding spec, they come with so much as standard, unless there is something you specifically want, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Well hopefully get test drive tomorrow And go from there. It does look nice tho
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Well hopefully get test drive tomorrow And go from there. It does look nice tho
Now you are setting yourself up for a mini review :laugh:
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lol.
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Finally had a test drive and while the car drove lovely There was a few Things that sort of turned me off. 1. The front tyres was replaced with kumos
2. Rear wheel had a small scuff
3 rear bumper had a few chips where stuff has been pulled out the boot.
4. 3 inch thin scratch on rear door( not down to metal)
5. Passenger seat top side had a dirt stain.
Even tho they said they could smart repair the door. I said no
And smart repair the bumper and the wheel. Apart from all this the car did look nice and drove nice. So for now Im leaning on not taking it
Just didnt feel the love/ but felt the speed
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Finally had a test drive and while the car drove lovely There was a few Things that sort of turned me off. 1. The front tyres was replaced with kumos
2. Rear wheel had a small scuff
3 rear bumper had a few chips where stuff has been pulled out the boot.
4. 3 inch thin scratch on rear door( not down to metal)
5. Passenger seat top side had a dirt stain.
Even tho they said they could smart repair the door. I said no
And smart repair the bumper and the wheel. Apart from all this the car did look nice and drove nice. So for now Im leaning on not taking it
Just didnt feel the love/ but felt the speed
It always amazes me that they'll happily have a car for sale looking far less than its best, but will sort all the things putting you off before you buy.
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Finally had a test drive and while the car drove lovely There was a few Things that sort of turned me off. 1. The front tyres was replaced with kumos
2. Rear wheel had a small scuff
3 rear bumper had a few chips where stuff has been pulled out the boot.
4. 3 inch thin scratch on rear door( not down to metal)
5. Passenger seat top side had a dirt stain.
Even tho they said they could smart repair the door. I said no
And smart repair the bumper and the wheel. Apart from all this the car did look nice and drove nice. So for now Im leaning on not taking it
Just didnt feel the love/ but felt the speed
It always amazes me that they'll happily have a car for sale looking far less than its best, but will sort all the things putting you off before you buy.
they'll be hoping that a customer comes along and buys regardless of condition and it saves them money by not having to do them.
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Small things can and do put me off, when paying that sort of money for a car I expect a fine example
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Are you paying a "mint" price though?
Silly question but if you want mint, then assuming you can find one, you pay for mint.
If its had new front tyres, likely as not its done at least 12-14k miles, which judging by most on here its over a year old.
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Are you paying a "mint" price though?
Silly question but if you want mint, then assuming you can find one, you pay for mint.
If its had new front tyres, likely as not its done at least 12-14k miles, which judging by most on here its over a year old.
All of those things seem easily resolved - half a day's wage for a smart repairer and they could be charging mint money.
I've learnt lately that it's always nice to have a shiny new car that no one has messed with before you, but for some cars (my A4, for example), you've got to forgive a few minor cosmetic issues for a huge saving. Just make sure the saving is huge! For me, I'd be looking to a 1 year old Golf GTI being at least £5k cheaper than broker new price, otherwise you might as well buy new.
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Likely as not on a VW dealer's forecourt a nearly new one has a sticker price north of a broker price for a new one...
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Likely as not on a VW dealer's forecourt a nearly new one has a sticker price north of a broker price for a new one...
That's why I wouldn't buy a nearly new Golf GTI. Especially if you rely on finance - used PCP rates are generally 50% higher than the new PCP rates.
We're in that funny state of being between generations, not new stock coming through of MK7.5.
I dare say though, if you're not too fussy, there'll be a few Golfs ordered before COVID-19 that haven't made it here yet that either:
1. Weren't allocated a buyer and are intended as stock.
2. People ordered them are now wanting to tighten their belts or might be facing COVID related redundancy.
3. People ordered before COVID-19 thinking "f**k it, i'm sick of waiting" and cancelled their order.
Always ringing around the fleet arm of the larger groups of dealerships: Lookers, JCT600, Listers, Arnold Shark etc.
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Are you paying a "mint" price though?
Silly question but if you want mint, then assuming you can find one, you pay for mint.
If its had new front tyres, likely as not its done at least 12-14k miles, which judging by most on here its over a year old.
All of those things seem easily resolved - half a day's wage for a smart repairer and they could be charging mint money.
I've learnt lately that it's always nice to have a shiny new car that no one has messed with before you, but for some cars (my A4, for example), you've got to forgive a few minor cosmetic issues for a huge saving. Just make sure the saving is huge! For me, I'd be looking to a 1 year old Golf GTI being at least £5k cheaper than broker new price, otherwise you might as well buy new.
£25400 with 7500 miles
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New tyres in 7500 miles? No wonder the passenger seat had a stain :laugh:
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Are you paying a "mint" price though?
Silly question but if you want mint, then assuming you can find one, you pay for mint.
If its had new front tyres, likely as not its done at least 12-14k miles, which judging by most on here its over a year old.
All of those things seem easily resolved - half a day's wage for a smart repairer and they could be charging mint money.
I've learnt lately that it's always nice to have a shiny new car that no one has messed with before you, but for some cars (my A4, for example), you've got to forgive a few minor cosmetic issues for a huge saving. Just make sure the saving is huge! For me, I'd be looking to a 1 year old Golf GTI being at least £5k cheaper than broker new price, otherwise you might as well buy new.
£25400 with 7500 miles
Are you PCPing? I'm guessing a brand spanking new one on its way can probably be had for about £29k and 0% finance (which will probably end up being a good £5k cheaper in interest vs PCP terms sround 8.9% on a used car?
As I said, have a ring around the big dealership groups, see if fleet will talk to you as it's usually fleet that sort the broker deals out. Listers Nuneaton's rep is Kim Draper -bought 2 VW cars from her after drive the deal introduced me to her. Or there is a resident dealer here that I haven't seen in a while.
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New tyres in 7500 miles? No wonder the passenger seat had a stain :laugh:
We definitely need a like button here! :grin:
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New tyres in 7500 miles? No wonder the passenger seat had a stain :laugh:
We definitely need a like button here! :grin:
Paying cash
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New tyres in 7500 miles? No wonder the passenger seat had a stain :laugh:
We definitely need a like button here! :grin:
Paying cash
OK, paying cash, so VWFS won't be bleeding you dry then!
Before you tell the dealer "cash", make sure there aren't any incentives for taking the finance like a deposit contribution or service pack. I just bought a 10 month old Audi A4 and took it on finance to grab the 2 free services that were offered as an incentive. Then 2 days after I picked the car up, I rang VWFS to "withdraw" from the financial agreement within the 14 day coing off period. You pay nominal interest until they accept (rang Tuesday after picking the car up the Friday before and paid £8.82 interest), then they give you 40 days to clear what you owe.
If you buy a £25k car with a £1k deposit contribition, you'll owe £24k, not £25k.
In my case, I retain the 2 free services.
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They going to get bumper painted properly at there body shop and the wheel refurbed and also they said they repaint the door but I don’t no to let them as it’s quite small but I’m not sure if I can polish it out but I don’t want to end up with a different shade of door in certain lights for such minor scratch
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They going to get bumper painted properly at there body shop and the wheel refurbed and also they said they repaint the door but I don’t no to let them as it’s quite small but I’m not sure if I can polish it out but I don’t want to end up with a different shade of door in certain lights for such minor scratch
If just the door was to be repainted, then there’s a chance you’d see a shade difference between the door and the adjoining panels. A high quality body shop would blend the paint into the panels either side of the door to minimise any risk of seeing a possible shade difference between the new paint and original factory paint.
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Unless you are planning on showing the car and keeping it in a plastic bubble in the garage, I'd not bother fixing it at all if its a minor scratch.
Your first trip to the supermarket will no doubt add more....
Get them to knock something off the price because you want to "get it done yourself" and be done with it.
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They going to get bumper painted properly at there body shop and the wheel refurbed and also they said they repaint the door but I don’t no to let them as it’s quite small but I’m not sure if I can polish it out but I don’t want to end up with a different shade of door in certain lights for such minor scratch
So have you changed your mind then? I had a look back at the post where you describe the issues, except for the stained seat mine had fairly similar. That's what you get for not stumping up for new (assuming you are getting a good deal). What fredgroves said, get some money off and don't worry about it. Mine had an approx 10" scratch on the bonnet, just 10 minutes hand polishing got it almost out to the point where I struggle to find it now. I'd even be dubious at getting the bumper sprayed, how about one of those fancy bumper trims to cover them up? That'll prevent future scuffs too which will happen.
Anyway, get it done and get driving it, you'll love it and will forget about the odd mark very quickly. They are great cars and you only live once. Please don't take offence but a 1.5TSI is just a car like any other. The GTI is a bit special :smiley:
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Should be picking it up next week. I told them leave the scratch but do bumper and wheel and they have knocked 200 off for small scratch so in all pretty happy. Thanks everyone for taking time to reply.
I’m not going to lie I feel a little excited
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I’m not going to lie I feel a little excited
Great! That's what it's all about :smiley: