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Title: Great mpg
Post by: valentino on 20 July 2021, 17:48
Had approx 150 mile drive today at “running in” pace. According to We Connect 51.3 mpg Well pleased!
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Exonian on 20 July 2021, 18:51
I managed 40 mpg this morning which involved much restraint! And I wasn’t even stuck behind a dawdling OAP. Must be the high ambient temps making the engines run leaner than a Conservative council’s public expenditure budget.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Woeisme on 20 July 2021, 22:50
Had approx 150 mile drive today at “running in” pace. According to We Connect 51.3 mpg Well pleased!
Thats extremely impressive. What version do you have and what transmission?
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Splashalot on 21 July 2021, 02:06
I managed 40 mpg this morning which involved much restraint! And I wasn’t even stuck behind a dawdling OAP. Must be the high ambient temps making the engines run leaner than a Conservative council’s public expenditure budget.

I too have noticed a difference in average MPG between Winter and Summer.  And it seems to change like I've flicked a switch.  Makes me wonder if the ECU is programed to switch between maps on a pre-determined date?
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: fredgroves on 21 July 2021, 07:39
My GTI managed 46mpg on a motorway run the other day.

I won't say that my previous GTD probably would have done 60mpg but  :whistle:

46 is pretty good I thought.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: valentino on 21 July 2021, 07:59
Transmission is DSG.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MH1qWMwF/66-A6-A0-C4-2-BB5-4-DF4-9-F02-C42-A01-A0-A165.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QKNRmMHQ)
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Yusee on 21 July 2021, 08:09
Definitely seeing better economy in the hot weather. I’m getting early 40s rather than late 30s on my morning commute
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: king monkey on 21 July 2021, 08:35
Temperature always makes a huge difference. On my way into work my current R hit 45mpg.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: fredgroves on 21 July 2021, 09:01
Its probably less optimal combustion and more to do with air density causing drag...

Air is 20% more dense at 0C than at 30C... thats a lot of drag.

In fact, that probably almost aligns with the difference in fuel economy...
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: davo245 on 21 July 2021, 12:04
My work commute is 40 miles motorway a road and town I can get 45 fairly easily without really trying on quiet morning run to work this time of year have had 52 really trying. Driving back enthusiastically and in traffic 38 is about where it usually  is dsg performance dsg.

Very economical for the performance you get imo.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Splashalot on 21 July 2021, 13:21
Its probably less optimal combustion and more to do with air density causing drag...

Air is 20% more dense at 0C than at 30C... thats a lot of drag.

In fact, that probably almost aligns with the difference in fuel economy...

I don't doubt that for a second.  But it doesn't explain why my average MPG changes noticeably each year like a switch has been flicked - it's not a gradual transition.  I'm still going with the Winter and Summer maps.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: SRGTD on 21 July 2021, 14:21
Its probably less optimal combustion and more to do with air density causing drag...

Air is 20% more dense at 0C than at 30C... thats a lot of drag.

In fact, that probably almost aligns with the difference in fuel economy...

I don't doubt that for a second.  But it doesn't explain why my average MPG changes noticeably each year like a switch has been flicked - it's not a gradual transition.  I'm still going with the Winter and Summer maps.

Could it be due to different seasonality blends of petrol?

With diesel, it’s widely known that there are different summer and winter blends. In some countries the formulation of petrol changes depending on the season. If this also the case in the UK, then that might be the reason for the step change in mpg if that step change coincides with the switchover from one season’s fuel type / formulation to another.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Exonian on 21 July 2021, 21:06
We need decent MPG’s at present, filled up with just under 50 litres yesterday at £141.9 (Tesco Momentum)  :shocked:
What the hell is going on with fuel prices?
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: king monkey on 21 July 2021, 21:17
£1.41. Wow. That’s crackers. If it goes over £1.50 I’ll just start pushing the car around.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Woeisme on 21 July 2021, 21:22
We need decent MPG’s at present, filled up with just under 50 litres yesterday at £141.9 (Tesco Momentum)  :shocked:
What the hell is going on with fuel prices?
Just under 3 Sterling a litre? That sounds way too much.

Unfortunately nobody sells high octane fuel here anymore so 95 will have to do.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Yusee on 21 July 2021, 22:17
That’s cheaper than 10 years ago. I bet you’re earning more than you were then.

https://www.racfoundation.org/data/uk-pump-prices-over-time
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Woeisme on 21 July 2021, 22:31
£1.41. Wow. That’s crackers. If it goes over £1.50 I’ll just start pushing the car around.
I read it as it cost 141.90 pounds to fill up. Nearly fell off my chair..
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Splashalot on 22 July 2021, 06:59


Could it be due to different seasonality blends of petrol?


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Of course!  That's probably it.  Now why didn't I think of that?  (Don't answer)

Edit:  Not only can I not think straight, seems I also can't quote other posts!
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: SRGTD on 22 July 2021, 07:11


Could it be due to different seasonality blends of petrol?



Of course!  That's probably it.  Now why didn't I think of that?  (Don't answer)

Edit:  Not only can I not think straight, seems I also can't quote other posts!
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 :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: fredgroves on 22 July 2021, 11:37
From DEFRA:

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The UK has a moderate climate and temperature variations between summer and winter are relatively small when compared with continental Europe. As a result, the need for additives to counteract the effects of changes in the physical environment on the properties of petrol is low, with changes in the Reid  Vapour  Pressure  (RVP)to meet  the  requirements  ofBS  EN  228  being  the  primary  driver ofseasonal differences in fuel composition.While winter and summer minimum and maximum values for RVP are specified within BS EN 228:2012, the range of values is sufficiently broad such that the transition from 'summer petrol' to ‘winter petrol’ can be managed using intermediate blends. The triggers that signal the transition from one blend to another  have  not  been  clearly identified  and  in  some  cases  are  driven  by  customer  requirements. However, the following provides a simplification for the transition dates:
•Summer: 1st June –31st August;
•Winter: 16th October –15th April
•Intermediate: 16th April –31st May and 1st September –15th October.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Guzzle on 22 July 2021, 21:53
Love it how winter is twice as long as summer :laugh:
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Splashalot on 23 July 2021, 07:15
Thanks, Fred.  I expect our petrol in Aus probably has great variances in line with our wider climate extremes.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: fredgroves on 23 July 2021, 08:05
Love it how winter is twice as long as summer :laugh:

Welcome to England lol
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Foxy367 on 23 July 2021, 15:57
Do they account for our Manchester goodness (AKA Rain)!!!  :rolleyes:

I'm really impressed with my Clubsport I was on 46mpg on a run down to Solihull from Manc the other day it dipped to a 44mpg overall after a quick blast from the M6 toll booths. 300bhp and 44 mpg is astonishing.

Overall from start I've averaged 36.9mpg according to We Connect and 35.4 calculated which I consider pretty good too and in line with an already well run previous Golf. I suspect this will increase over time with longer journeys again.
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Exonian on 23 July 2021, 16:31
That’s cheaper than 10 years ago. I bet you’re earning more than you were then.

https://www.racfoundation.org/data/uk-pump-prices-over-time

In real terms I’m earning far less now than then.
Hence I still give a stuff how much fuel costs!  :grin:


I read it as it cost 141.90 pounds to fill up. Nearly fell off my chair..

My number presentation is nearly as bad as my grammar!  :whistle:
£1.419 (?) 141.9 ppl (?) or £1.42 rounded up which is easier to decipher
Title: Re: Great mpg
Post by: Smoggie on 31 July 2021, 15:31
I have 150 ps dsg etsi,and  dash was saying nearly 65mp3 going down a1 on cruise. Made me wonder if it was telling lies.